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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4980604" data-attributes="member: 63706">I said we don&#039;t have any credible way to verify. Those tests have been officially determined by the CDC and the FDA to not be accurate, for the reasons I stated. Non-government scientists have been pointing out the reliability issue with at least the PCR test since it started to be used for diagnosis. I gave my reasoning for asserting that most people who supposedly died of covid would likely have died of something else with or without covid. You take the insignificant difference in the all cause death count, combine it with unreliable tests, that doesn&#039;t leave you with much of a basis for making any claims about covid.I&#039;ll add in a bonus, at least some of the hospitals that were being &quot;overrun&quot; by covid did not experience any significant increase in number of admits from the same time the year before. I can&#039;t say that&#039;s the case for every hospital, but I know I&#039;ve seen the data for a few. In my state, they are moving all covid patients to the closest large hospital, mostly a handful in larger cities, many of which have been operating short staffed since they laid off people during the shutdowns last year and never rehired fully. They are claiming the whole state needs to be locked down again because they are purposefully diverting patients to understaffed hospitals. I guess they didn&#039;t count on the staff from smaller hospitals blowing the whistle on the fact that they are having their hours cut due to a lack of patients. Clearly not every state or every hospital is as corrupt as my state, but there are plenty of reasons to question the established narrative.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4980604, member: 63706"] I said we don't have any credible way to verify. Those tests have been officially determined by the CDC and the FDA to not be accurate, for the reasons I stated. Non-government scientists have been pointing out the reliability issue with at least the PCR test since it started to be used for diagnosis. I gave my reasoning for asserting that most people who supposedly died of covid would likely have died of something else with or without covid. You take the insignificant difference in the all cause death count, combine it with unreliable tests, that doesn't leave you with much of a basis for making any claims about covid. I'll add in a bonus, at least some of the hospitals that were being "overrun" by covid did not experience any significant increase in number of admits from the same time the year before. I can't say that's the case for every hospital, but I know I've seen the data for a few. In my state, they are moving all covid patients to the closest large hospital, mostly a handful in larger cities, many of which have been operating short staffed since they laid off people during the shutdowns last year and never rehired fully. They are claiming the whole state needs to be locked down again because they are purposefully diverting patients to understaffed hospitals. I guess they didn't count on the staff from smaller hospitals blowing the whistle on the fact that they are having their hours cut due to a lack of patients. Clearly not every state or every hospital is as corrupt as my state, but there are plenty of reasons to question the established narrative. [/QUOTE]

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