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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 4991088" data-attributes="member: 56035">neo sacrificed himself but somehow the machines were the security force (equivalent to darth vader) and joined the revolution to end smiths destructive capitalism.&nbsp; and the ppl in zion were spared only in part because they rebelled, if they didnt fight back they wouldve been wiped out regardless of neo&#039;s actions.&nbsp; neo just took a new path with the architech where instead of reforming hte matrix like he did before (reload) we get a new path of revolution and yet the matrix still exists even after the 3rd movie ends.i think what sheldon wolin recommended was we need a permanent counterveilling force to i forget probably the govt and capitalist power and thats besides the possibility he might not be in favor of capitalism to begin with.i think just based on teh fact that we need rebellion under this current system for it to function bare minimum, then we probably cant rely on ppl self regulating although im in favor of teaching ppl to try and be good.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 4991088, member: 56035"] neo sacrificed himself but somehow the machines were the security force (equivalent to darth vader) and joined the revolution to end smiths destructive capitalism. and the ppl in zion were spared only in part because they rebelled, if they didnt fight back they wouldve been wiped out regardless of neo's actions. neo just took a new path with the architech where instead of reforming hte matrix like he did before (reload) we get a new path of revolution and yet the matrix still exists even after the 3rd movie ends. i think what sheldon wolin recommended was we need a permanent counterveilling force to i forget probably the govt and capitalist power and thats besides the possibility he might not be in favor of capitalism to begin with. i think just based on teh fact that we need rebellion under this current system for it to function bare minimum, then we probably cant rely on ppl self regulating although im in favor of teaching ppl to try and be good. [/QUOTE]

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