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DriveInDriѵeOut

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
newfie said:
I listened to politicians ast night complain that there while people are employed that there are many working two or three jobs and i had the thought:

Obama did what for 8 years?
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More than Trump. Quite a feat to be worse than Obama he was terrible!

Then again we're talking about a guy who can't even make money with a casino lol.
 
Old Man Jingles

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
bacha29 said:
My grandfather died of cancer in 1966. Now if it was God who is responsible for the creation of the increasingly effective cancer treatments we have today why didn't God provide those treatments back in 1966?
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Because mankind had not advanced his knowledge of God's ways at that time.
 
Old Man Jingles

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
bacha29 said:
In this case help themselves to exactly what?
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There was a preacher who fell in the ocean and he couldn't swim.
When a boat came by, the captain yelled, "Do you need help, sir?"
The preacher calmly said "No, God will save me."
A little later, another boat came by and a fisherman asked, "Hey, do you need help?"
The preacher replied again, "No God will save me."
Eventually the preacher drowned & went to heaven.
The preacher asked God, "Why didn't you save me?"
God replied, "Fool, I sent you two boats!"
 
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vantexan

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DriveInDriveOut said:
More than Trump. Quite a feat to be worse than Obama he was terrible!

Then again we're talking about a guy who can't even make money with a casino lol.
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If companies charged what it takes to let everyone only work one job you'd be screaming about the high costs and they'd soon go out of business. No problem here paying $15hr minimum wage but would still take a lot of OT to make a decent living so one job still isn't going to cut it. Trump has done what it takes to improve the economy but now we're talking unrealistic expectations by those who if they can't have a great life with their job's pay expect the government to intervene with free stuff. The only caveat to that is if jobs are automated away the government better come up with a UBI or there will be serious unrest.
 
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bacha29

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vantexan said:
If companies charged what it takes to let everyone only work one job you'd be screaming about the high costs and they'd soon go out of business. No problem here paying $15hr minimum wage but would still take a lot of OT to make a decent living so one job still isn't going to cut it. Trump has done what it takes to improve the economy but now we're talking unrealistic expectations by those who if they can't have a great life with their job's pay expect the government to intervene with free stuff. The only caveat to that is if jobs are automated away the government better come up with a UBI or there will be serious unrest.
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One valid question continues to be brought in the minimum wage debate. If a so called small business needs labor at dirt cheap federal minimum wage level that has to be subsidized in the form of food stamps, Medicaid, CHIPS, WIC reduced school lunches etc should they even be allowed to stay in business? Are they contributing enough tax revenue in return to offset the cost of the programs required to allow them to employ people at starvation wages?
 
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vantexan

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bacha29 said:
One valid question continues to be brought in the minimum wage debate. If a so called small business needs labor at dirt cheap federal minimum wage level that has to be subsidized in the form of food stamps, Medicaid, CHIPS, WIC reduced school lunches etc should they even be allowed to stay in business? Are they contributing enough tax revenue in return to offset the cost of the programs required to allow them to employ people at starvation wages?
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When I made $10.85hr in 1998 after getting rehired at FedEx I was living at my mom's. In 2000 when I moved out I made $11.67hr. I never used those programs. Most people live with relatives, get roommates, do without amenities. I did without a car for years. Plenty of poor people always seem to have money for alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc. I worked 3 jobs, 75 hours a week in my twenties until I became a courier. Didn't kill me. And never even occurred to me to ask the government for anything.
 
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BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
PT Stewie said:
I am my own man but part of my values come from my personal hero my dad. He was a union man, a good husband and father, a WWII vet( a paratrooper no less) and a democrat. He is probably looking down and shaking is head in disgust with this current crop of pro choice socialists.
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My grandad and dad are doing the same thing.
 
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BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
bacha29 said:
My grandfather died of cancer in 1966. Now if it was God who is responsible for the creation of the increasingly effective cancer treatments we have today why didn't God provide those treatments back in 1966?
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God's time is not your time.
Since he is the Creator, He probably doesn't need your approval when things happen.
 
newfie

newfie

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Box Ox said:
Feeling like you need a flag or flag pin present to prove your patriotism only cheapens it.
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it is customary that the flag be displayed when we conduct the peoples business. everything has a purpose or meaning in politics .

was it deliberate?
 
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