Does management have to go UP the TCD list when sending drivers back out?

[superballs63]

I wish we had any of those agreements in my local. We can be sent back out after reaching the building (as long as we're the lowest man there). We can also be PM dispatched whenever the hell it suits management.

 

[Jackburton]

Come in late like me and you don't have to worry about going back out.

 

[Fragile]

I wish we had any of those agreements in my local. We can be sent back out after reaching the building (as long as we're the lowest man there). We can also be PM dispatched whenever the hell it suits management.

Really? Where are you? What local?

I'm fascinated by this.

What happens if you say no?

 

[WESLA]

That's one of the biggest problem with this company, the dispatching. Do it right the first time and they wouldn't have to send people back out to help because some are overloaded and some are not.

I know of no other job where you report to work put in 8-12 hours, complete all of your work, then before you can punch out you have to do other people's work as well.

I know of no other job that doesn't require a college degree where you can make such great money, have such great benefits and job security, and still get to go home every night. Just saying..

 

[scooby0048]

I know of no other job that doesn't require a college degree where you can make such great money, have such great benefits and job security, and still get to go home every night. Just saying..

All true, no arguments here on that one but with the increased demands the company puts on us, are we working to to live or living to work?

 

[WESLA]

All true, no arguments here on that one but with the increased demands the company puts on us, are we working to to live or living to work?

Agree.
Guess we all just have to individually weigh the sacrifices that come with this job.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

I know of no other job that doesn't require a college degree where you can make such great money, have such great benefits and job security, and still get to go home every night. Just saying..

I know people who haven't gone home every night.

 

[ManInBrown]

That sucks. That would Tee me off to no end.

 

[superballs63]

Really? Where are you? What local?

I'm fascinated by this.

What happens if you say no?

Atlantic division Local 355. "Work as instructed, and grieve later"

 

[3 done 3 to go]

When they ask me if I can help. It is up to me. If I feel tired I will say so. If you feel "fatigued " . Say so. You gave them a fair days work. Entirely up to you if you decide to help another. I keep a mental note. If I help them. Then they never help me. I will let them burn the mid night oil

 

[OLDMAN3]

We don't have TCD here so i cannot speak to your area. Here (central region) if you have returned to building after completing full days work you do not have to go back out as stated above. If you receive a message while still out, you must work as directed but can only be redispatched 3 times in a month. The company will attempt to use the closest available person to help the person in need. The only time seniority has come into play here is if their are two people available the higher senior person has the right of first option, either to accept or decline!!

Very important post, Thanks.
I was unaware of the ruling as well as, I am sure, the rest of my center.
I have messaged back to them that they have to try to use a less senior driver in my loop when they are looking for help. The management team always maintains seniority does not mater in this situation, but I will fire back that extra work is to be delegated by seniority among those who are close enough, and able to help.
If forced to help, I make sure and take my full break first to give them plenty of time to find other help.
Good to know about the 3 times a month ruling.
They have not been asking, or telling me to help since they started paying my 9.5 grievances (something that never happened till this year around here).
I assume the 3 times a month rule would not apply during peak?

 

[grgrcr88]

I assume the 3 times a month rule would not apply during peak?

Correct

 

[Oak]

In the Southern Supplement we don't have to go out once we are back at the building. There is no language that says we can't be disciplined for refusing but why should there be? It already says we don't have to.

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Anyone in the Southern know where this is located in the contract? I've been looking, but haven't found it.

 

[clean hairy]

Not in the contract but has been ruled on in the JAC. I have the ruling in my paperwork at work. This is a central region ruling based on the language in article 19 about not being disciplined for refusing to go back out after returning to the building.

Of course, a Driver could always be "too fatigued and tired to perform the job safely" I think in the D.O.T. regs it addresses something about a driver shall not drive if it cannot be done safely.
I do not know where it might be in the DOT book, and I could be wrong on this.

 

[barnyard]

Do not look at your diad after your last stop until you get to the building. When you see the green light of death, reply, "I am at the building, are you forcing me back out."

Key word there is forcing. If they say yes, that is how you grieve it. If you just go out and help, then grieve, they will say, "You agreed to go out." The steward will just shrug his/her shoulders and agree. If you have that message and take a photo of it with your phone or ask your OMS to print your messages before you punch out, then your grievance is covered.

You have to be forced to win that grievance.

 

[Jones]

Really? Where are you? What local?

I'm fascinated by this.

What happens if you say no?

If you are instructed to go back out and you refuse? You'll have a meeting where your ID card will be taken, then you'll get escorted to the gate, then you'll sit at home waiting for the local hearing where you can beg for your job. Atlantic Area supplement.

 

[barnyard]

If you are instructed to go back out and you refuse? You'll have a meeting where your ID card will be taken, then you'll get escorted to the gate, then you'll sit at home waiting for the local hearing where you can beg for your job. Atlantic Area supplement.

Yep.

You have to work as directed. Grieve it after you have worked as directed.

 

[Fragile]

So you guys are telling me that if I'm dispatched with let's say for instance 9.5 hours of work, I finish the route, text my wife to start dinner I'll be home soon, get back to the building and park my truck, go into the office to punch my board out and someone instructs me to go back out I have to?

Unreal.

 

[sortaisle]

I'm unclear as to why you'd text her to start dinner if you haven't actually clocked out yet. Putting the cart before the horse really.

 

[Coldworld]

That's one of the biggest problem with this company, the dispatching. Do it right the first time and they wouldn't have to send people back out to help because some are overloaded and some are not.

I know of no other job where you report to work put in 8-12 hours, complete all of your work, then before you can punch out you have to do other people's work as well.

Totally agreed. .but they aren't running enough routes, that's the biggest problem