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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 2510447" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>No you would not. As long as you are not driving a commercial motor vehicle, you can work as many hours as you want.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. He should finish his job, unless he wants to start the next day at the normal time. If he works more than 14 hours, which he can as long as he is not driving, that will push his start time back the next day. He needs 10 hours off before starting the next day or he cannot drive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. Of DOT driving hours left. If you have a job where you don't drive, you can work there as many hours as you like. But then you obviously need 10 hours off to be able to drive the next day.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. If you drive. They could use him as a jumper if he did not have 10 hours off.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sort of. </p><p></p><p>Shifters, since they do not drive on public roads, are not bound by DOT HOS rules. (If you are a shifter that does drive on public roads, ie, to access a parking lot separated from your hub or building, you are bound by DOT HOS.)</p><p></p><p>Shifters can work as many hours as they want and do not need 10 hours off before starting the next day. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Looks confusing, but I think you are saying that since his second job is non driving, he is not bound by HOS and the 11/14 do not come into play. But these hours worked at his second job do count toward his hours for his driving job. He has to include them both in his 14 hours and 60 hours.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>DOT does have exemptions for package drivers. Short Haul exemption relating to log books and breaks after 8 hours of work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is really very simple.</p><p></p><p><em>You cannot drive more than 11 hours without taking 10 hours off. This does not affect package drivers because none, or only a handful, actually drive more than 11 hours. This is driving time behind the wheel only.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>You cannot drive after being on duty for 14 hours without taking 10 hours off. This is on duty time, including all breaks and lunches. This also includes any other job you have away from your driving job. Those hours count toward your 14.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>You cannot drive after working 60 hours within the last 7 days without taking 34 hours off. This time does not include breaks and lunches. (Some locations have switched to the 70 hour rule within the last 8 days.)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Look what it says...<em>drive. </em>If your past your 60, you can still work. You can preload, jump, etc. Just cannot drive. You then need your 34 hours off after that to drive again.</p><p></p><p>Same thing with your 14. You can work past 14, just cannot drive. You still need 10 hours off after that to still drive again.</p><p></p><p>1. All hours from all jobs count toward your DOT HOS regarding when you can drive. Except volunteer work.</p><p>2. You are responsible for keeping track of your own hours. If you violate, you will be fined.</p><p>3. The Company will also be fined if you violate, so they sometimes help keep you informed of your hours.</p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 2510447, member: 8481"] No you would not. As long as you are not driving a commercial motor vehicle, you can work as many hours as you want. No. He should finish his job, unless he wants to start the next day at the normal time. If he works more than 14 hours, which he can as long as he is not driving, that will push his start time back the next day. He needs 10 hours off before starting the next day or he cannot drive. Correct. Correct. Of DOT driving hours left. If you have a job where you don't drive, you can work there as many hours as you like. But then you obviously need 10 hours off to be able to drive the next day. Correct. If you drive. They could use him as a jumper if he did not have 10 hours off. Sort of. Shifters, since they do not drive on public roads, are not bound by DOT HOS rules. (If you are a shifter that does drive on public roads, ie, to access a parking lot separated from your hub or building, you are bound by DOT HOS.) Shifters can work as many hours as they want and do not need 10 hours off before starting the next day. Looks confusing, but I think you are saying that since his second job is non driving, he is not bound by HOS and the 11/14 do not come into play. But these hours worked at his second job do count toward his hours for his driving job. He has to include them both in his 14 hours and 60 hours. DOT does have exemptions for package drivers. Short Haul exemption relating to log books and breaks after 8 hours of work. It is really very simple. [I]You cannot drive more than 11 hours without taking 10 hours off. This does not affect package drivers because none, or only a handful, actually drive more than 11 hours. This is driving time behind the wheel only. You cannot drive after being on duty for 14 hours without taking 10 hours off. This is on duty time, including all breaks and lunches. This also includes any other job you have away from your driving job. Those hours count toward your 14. You cannot drive after working 60 hours within the last 7 days without taking 34 hours off. This time does not include breaks and lunches. (Some locations have switched to the 70 hour rule within the last 8 days.) [/I] Look what it says...[I]drive. [/I]If your past your 60, you can still work. You can preload, jump, etc. Just cannot drive. You then need your 34 hours off after that to drive again. Same thing with your 14. You can work past 14, just cannot drive. You still need 10 hours off after that to still drive again. 1. All hours from all jobs count toward your DOT HOS regarding when you can drive. Except volunteer work. 2. You are responsible for keeping track of your own hours. If you violate, you will be fined. 3. The Company will also be fined if you violate, so they sometimes help keep you informed of your hours. [I] [/I] [/QUOTE]
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