dow jones

seems like the support of an economist is the kiss of death
Sounds more like work...

Oh yeah.. this will be fine

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UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
If Trump does nothing else, but breaks our dependency on China, he’s done more than any president in the last 30 years. And yes, I think it’s going to hurt. I also think it’s for the best as has every other politician for the last 30 years but didn’t do anything about it.
It’s for our kids
 

Over70irregs

❤️ MORE 😡 LESS
If Trump does nothing else, but breaks our dependency on China, he’s done more than any president in the last 30 years. And yes, I think it’s going to hurt. I also think it’s for the best as has every other politician for the last 30 years but didn’t do anything about it.
Not sure if its easier to wait 3 years instead of moving operations for a new administration? This is a thought being put out there.
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/11/china-options-retaliate-trump-tariffs-trade-war
 
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Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I know this post will be suppressed, but I think it’s worth listening to.

Why would this answer be suppressed? It’s not even a good answer. It’s a ridiculous answer. at the end of his answer, he even admits the flaw in his trading pieces of paper for Chinese junk philosophy. Ultimately, we are helping and depending one of the worst governments in the world..
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
I know this post will be suppressed, but I think it’s worth listening to.

That’s what’s so dumb about this, how it’s being framed and how it’s being facilitated

Trump starts it by issuing huge global tariffs, claiming America is being cheated, and we’re doing reciprocal tariffs from now on. Then you look into it and realize it’s not reciprocal tariffs and he’s actually counting our trade deficits

The EU just offered him zero tariffs, free trade, and he turned it down because we buy more things from them than they buy from us, and he wants it to be perfectly even, so they also need to buy $350 billion worth of energy from us

What is the goal? Because he’s also giving contradictory reasons for the tariffs, one day it’s for free trade, the other it’s to permanently implement tariffs to bring manufacturing back home, the next day he’s lowering all the tariffs to 10% and pausing for 90 days. It’s giving everyone and the businesses around the world uncertainty and is terrible leadership

He’s been in office for 3 months and it seems the entire time he’s been focusing on straining ties with our allies. Threatening Canada, threatening Greenland, stopping help to Ukraine. Then he issues tariffs on practically the whole world… but he doesn’t include Russia.

Seems weird
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
That’s what’s so dumb about this, how it’s being framed and how it’s being facilitated

Trump starts it by issuing huge global tariffs, claiming America is being cheated, and we’re doing reciprocal tariffs from now on. Then you look into it and realize it’s not reciprocal tariffs and he’s actually counting our trade deficits

The EU just offered him zero tariffs, free trade, and he turned it down because we buy more things from them than they buy from us, and he wants it to be perfectly even, so they also need to buy $350 billion worth of energy from us

What is the goal? Because he’s also giving contradictory reasons for the tariffs, one day it’s for free trade, the other it’s to permanently implement tariffs to bring manufacturing back home, the next day he’s lowering all the tariffs to 10% and pausing for 90 days. It’s giving everyone and the businesses around the world uncertainty and is terrible leadership

He’s been in office for 3 months and it seems the entire time he’s been focusing on straining ties with our allies. Threatening Canada, threatening Greenland, stopping help to Ukraine. Then he issues tariffs on practically the whole world… but he doesn’t include Russia.

Seems weird




"In a financial sense, yeah we could do things very bad for Russia, would be devastating for Russia," Trump said Wednesday when asked about sanctions and pressuring Russia to accept the ceasefire during a White House meeting with Ireland's leader.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I know this post will be suppressed, but I think it’s worth listening to.

If China had stuck to just manufacturing while being cooperative that would be one thing. But China has pushed its neighbors around, has stolen proprietary technology, has mass interred a whole ethnic group and forced them to slave labor, has shut out much of its huge market to competition, and has steadily ramped up its military including its nuclear capability. And yes you can point to U.S. history and say we've done the same on a lot of that. Difference is our free market has invented much of the technology that allowed the biggest middle class in world history. China's system puts total control of people's lives in very few hands. If China becomes the world's dominant power then more and more countries around it will fall into communist rule much in the same way Eastern Europe did after WWII to the Soviet Union.
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
If China had stuck to just manufacturing while being cooperative that would be one thing. But China has pushed its neighbors around, has stolen proprietary technology, has mass interred a whole ethnic group and forced them to slave labor, has shut out much of its huge market to competition, and has steadily ramped up its military including its nuclear capability. And yes you can point to U.S. history and say we've done the same on a lot of that. Difference is our free market has invented much of the technology that allowed the biggest middle class in world history. China's system puts total control of people's lives in very few hands. If China becomes the world's dominant power then more and more countries around it will fall into communist rule much in the same way Eastern Europe did after WWII to the Soviet Union.
Just making trump look weaker the more you talk about China being bad. Trump just folded to China
 
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