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<blockquote data-quote="&#039;Lord Brown&#039;s bidding&#039;" data-source="post: 1117697" data-attributes="member: 32753"><p>I am trying to figure out why the disagreement between mgmt and the driver-I think I got it now: driver has three different business, adjacent to each other and all owned by same owner. Driver takes advantage of latter fact by regularly using multi-LA to one particular adress, although TECHNICALLY there are THREE different delivery points, and on certain days the regular delivery point is closed and the driver must deliver the other packages to their respective delivery points, OR the other two locations are closed and the main delivey place will not accept packages for the other two locations since they wouldn't be able to move them that day, thus cluttering up their space. Management just pulls all three addresses as closed, even though one or two of the businesses might actually be open. </p><p></p><p>By corporate policies, the driver was not wrong. I have several businesses that are sheeted similarly, because at one time they were delivered to separate points, but in a mutually-beneficial arrangement the vast majority of times I am only delivering to one address. However, two addresses don't suddenly become one address, and technically and even "truthfully" it isn't a "duplicate" stop, neither. Problem is often mgmt is not always well-versed in the proper delivery procedures, frankly because in many cases they don't-or won't-use them. I once "taught" an on-car of several years about using "multi-left at"; he was so afraid I was going to do something that would put me on a report. I was amazed when I showed him and he responded-with a genuine look of surprise on his face-"Wow! I never knew that!" </p><p></p><p>More pertinent, after I recently discovered that pre-recording a stop before a commit time-e.g. 10:30 or special agreements, like with Footlocker-and I was sharing this with another supe, a different supe pulled me aside shortly after to point out "doing things like pre-recording airs is what gets drivers in trouble; the company is watching such things". I tried hard to show him that it isn't shady, some trick, but has a very legitimate use; he promised that if he OJS'ed me we would do things "the right way", and I had the sinking feeling that meant either dishonestly sheeting all packages to one address (which can cause problems if a shipper is tracking that package and is expecting it to be delivered to a certain address; indirect deliveries show up differently on the tracking screen, and I have personally experienced this), OR making the receiver sign twice, which is pretty inconvenient for both a busy receiver as well as a time-crunched driver and is the very situation multi-LA was created to avoid, and why the time-stamp is based off the first-prerecord stop, so that it could be used at places where this might be an issue, like the mailroom of a college dorm (per training received via the DIAD, the proper way to record these stops is to sheet each room as a separate stop, even if the main address is the same, and then in the multi-LA screen use the "DR"-"Duplication Residential" option. Every supe I've trained with, however, has always said "the right way" is to sheet them all up as one address, so we don't get credit for more than one stop. Again, they don't know the ACTUAL method, but we can be disciplined for using it because they aren't familiar with it...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="'Lord Brown's bidding', post: 1117697, member: 32753"] I am trying to figure out why the disagreement between mgmt and the driver-I think I got it now: driver has three different business, adjacent to each other and all owned by same owner. Driver takes advantage of latter fact by regularly using multi-LA to one particular adress, although TECHNICALLY there are THREE different delivery points, and on certain days the regular delivery point is closed and the driver must deliver the other packages to their respective delivery points, OR the other two locations are closed and the main delivey place will not accept packages for the other two locations since they wouldn't be able to move them that day, thus cluttering up their space. Management just pulls all three addresses as closed, even though one or two of the businesses might actually be open. By corporate policies, the driver was not wrong. I have several businesses that are sheeted similarly, because at one time they were delivered to separate points, but in a mutually-beneficial arrangement the vast majority of times I am only delivering to one address. However, two addresses don't suddenly become one address, and technically and even "truthfully" it isn't a "duplicate" stop, neither. Problem is often mgmt is not always well-versed in the proper delivery procedures, frankly because in many cases they don't-or won't-use them. I once "taught" an on-car of several years about using "multi-left at"; he was so afraid I was going to do something that would put me on a report. I was amazed when I showed him and he responded-with a genuine look of surprise on his face-"Wow! I never knew that!" More pertinent, after I recently discovered that pre-recording a stop before a commit time-e.g. 10:30 or special agreements, like with Footlocker-and I was sharing this with another supe, a different supe pulled me aside shortly after to point out "doing things like pre-recording airs is what gets drivers in trouble; the company is watching such things". I tried hard to show him that it isn't shady, some trick, but has a very legitimate use; he promised that if he OJS'ed me we would do things "the right way", and I had the sinking feeling that meant either dishonestly sheeting all packages to one address (which can cause problems if a shipper is tracking that package and is expecting it to be delivered to a certain address; indirect deliveries show up differently on the tracking screen, and I have personally experienced this), OR making the receiver sign twice, which is pretty inconvenient for both a busy receiver as well as a time-crunched driver and is the very situation multi-LA was created to avoid, and why the time-stamp is based off the first-prerecord stop, so that it could be used at places where this might be an issue, like the mailroom of a college dorm (per training received via the DIAD, the proper way to record these stops is to sheet each room as a separate stop, even if the main address is the same, and then in the multi-LA screen use the "DR"-"Duplication Residential" option. Every supe I've trained with, however, has always said "the right way" is to sheet them all up as one address, so we don't get credit for more than one stop. Again, they don't know the ACTUAL method, but we can be disciplined for using it because they aren't familiar with it... [/QUOTE]
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