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Driver Fired for Dishonesty... While Supervisors Pull Stops as KC.... NOT
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<blockquote data-quote="UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)" data-source="post: 1117720" data-attributes="member: 12570"><p>By corporate policies, the driver was not wrong. I have several businesses that are sheeted similarly, because at one time they were delivered to separate points, but in a mutually-beneficial arrangement the vast majority of times I am only delivering to one address. However, two addresses don't suddenly become one address, and technically and even "truthfully" it isn't a "duplicate" stop, neither. Problem is often mgmt is not always well-versed in the proper delivery procedures, frankly because in many cases they don't-or won't-use them. I once "taught" an on-car of several years about using "multi-left at"; he was so afraid I was going to do something that would put me on a report. I was amazed when I showed him and he responded-with a genuine look of surprise on his face-"Wow! I never knew that!" </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">If the driver in question was making a valid delivery attempt at each of the adjacent businesses before indirecting the packages to the third business then each of the stops would be a separate stop; however, if the driver knew that the adjacent businesses would be closed and arrangements had been made to deliver everything to the third business you would sheet the stops separately, use multiple left-at, LC, DC, DC, left at location, one stop. To record all 3 as LC would be padding stops and could be considered to be dishonest.</span></p><p></p><p>More pertinent, after I recently discovered that pre-recording a stop before a commit time-e.g. 10:30 or special agreements, like with Footlocker-and I was sharing this with another supe, a different supe pulled me aside shortly after to point out "doing things like pre-recording airs is what gets drivers in trouble; the company is watching such things". I tried hard to show him that it isn't shady, some trick, but has a very legitimate use; he promised that if he OJS'ed me we would do things "the right way", and I had the sinking feeling that meant either dishonestly sheeting all packages to one address (which can cause problems if a shipper is tracking that package and is expecting it to be delivered to a certain address; indirect deliveries show up differently on the tracking screen, and I have personally experienced this), OR making the receiver sign twice, which is pretty inconvenient for both a busy receiver as well as a time-crunched driver and is the very situation multi-LA was created to avoid, and why the time-stamp is based off the first-prerecord stop, so that it could be used at places where this might be an issue, like the mailroom of a college dorm (per training received via the DIAD, the proper way to record these stops is to sheet each room as a separate stop, even if the main address is the same, and then in the multi-LA screen use the "DR"-"Duplication Residential" option. Every supe I've trained with, however, has always said "the right way" is to sheet them all up as one address, so we don't get credit for more than one stop. Again, they don't know the ACTUAL method, but we can be disciplined for using it because they aren't familiar with it...</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">When you prerecord a stop which has NDA the time stamp will be when you complete the stop, not when you prerecorded the packages. We have had a few drivers who found this out the hard way.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">I also deliver to a college which averages 75 packages per day (up to 200 when a new semester is starting) and there is no way in hell I am going to prerecord each package addressed to a dorm only to use DR. Your sups are right----you would sheet the first package with the main address of the college (101 Broad St) and then hit "Y" for any package which does not have the same address but is delivered to the mailroom. Do you have any idea how long it would take to sheet and prerecord 50 or more separate dorm packages? Tracking a dorm package will show delivery location (101 Broad St) and receiver name. The college then delivers the packages to the individual dorms and buildings. The college records each and every package they receive and I have never had a negative DFU at the college.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UpstateNYUPSer(Ret), post: 1117720, member: 12570"] By corporate policies, the driver was not wrong. I have several businesses that are sheeted similarly, because at one time they were delivered to separate points, but in a mutually-beneficial arrangement the vast majority of times I am only delivering to one address. However, two addresses don't suddenly become one address, and technically and even "truthfully" it isn't a "duplicate" stop, neither. Problem is often mgmt is not always well-versed in the proper delivery procedures, frankly because in many cases they don't-or won't-use them. I once "taught" an on-car of several years about using "multi-left at"; he was so afraid I was going to do something that would put me on a report. I was amazed when I showed him and he responded-with a genuine look of surprise on his face-"Wow! I never knew that!" [COLOR=#ff0000]If the driver in question was making a valid delivery attempt at each of the adjacent businesses before indirecting the packages to the third business then each of the stops would be a separate stop; however, if the driver knew that the adjacent businesses would be closed and arrangements had been made to deliver everything to the third business you would sheet the stops separately, use multiple left-at, LC, DC, DC, left at location, one stop. To record all 3 as LC would be padding stops and could be considered to be dishonest.[/COLOR] More pertinent, after I recently discovered that pre-recording a stop before a commit time-e.g. 10:30 or special agreements, like with Footlocker-and I was sharing this with another supe, a different supe pulled me aside shortly after to point out "doing things like pre-recording airs is what gets drivers in trouble; the company is watching such things". I tried hard to show him that it isn't shady, some trick, but has a very legitimate use; he promised that if he OJS'ed me we would do things "the right way", and I had the sinking feeling that meant either dishonestly sheeting all packages to one address (which can cause problems if a shipper is tracking that package and is expecting it to be delivered to a certain address; indirect deliveries show up differently on the tracking screen, and I have personally experienced this), OR making the receiver sign twice, which is pretty inconvenient for both a busy receiver as well as a time-crunched driver and is the very situation multi-LA was created to avoid, and why the time-stamp is based off the first-prerecord stop, so that it could be used at places where this might be an issue, like the mailroom of a college dorm (per training received via the DIAD, the proper way to record these stops is to sheet each room as a separate stop, even if the main address is the same, and then in the multi-LA screen use the "DR"-"Duplication Residential" option. Every supe I've trained with, however, has always said "the right way" is to sheet them all up as one address, so we don't get credit for more than one stop. Again, they don't know the ACTUAL method, but we can be disciplined for using it because they aren't familiar with it... [COLOR=#ff0000]When you prerecord a stop which has NDA the time stamp will be when you complete the stop, not when you prerecorded the packages. We have had a few drivers who found this out the hard way. I also deliver to a college which averages 75 packages per day (up to 200 when a new semester is starting) and there is no way in hell I am going to prerecord each package addressed to a dorm only to use DR. Your sups are right----you would sheet the first package with the main address of the college (101 Broad St) and then hit "Y" for any package which does not have the same address but is delivered to the mailroom. Do you have any idea how long it would take to sheet and prerecord 50 or more separate dorm packages? Tracking a dorm package will show delivery location (101 Broad St) and receiver name. The college then delivers the packages to the individual dorms and buildings. The college records each and every package they receive and I have never had a negative DFU at the college.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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