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<blockquote data-quote="BrownArmy" data-source="post: 1443648" data-attributes="member: 18225">I&#039;ll agree with that.But I&#039;ll posit that most people of either or any political persuasion realize on some visceral level that, at the very least, the political process is a complete sham.Politicians say what they say to get elected, and then, who knows!&nbsp; And the government machine rolls on, mostly to the benefit of corporations, the rich, and the government, in any order you pick.I&#039;ll also posit that, most people, without having done all the research, feel as well that aside from elections (where most people instinctively feel that wool is being pulled over their eyes), that the government in general doesn&#039;t serve their best interests. The next logical step would seem to be to inform the &#039;low-information voter&#039;, as oldngray puts it, or the non-voter (who doesn&#039;t not-vote out of protest, but out of sloth) of the inherent ridiculousness of the system and that we need something different on a structural level.I don&#039;t feel like voting in general as a process is the problem, the problem we really only get to vote for the man wearing two different hats.So if the majority of people realize they&#039;re getting screwed, it seems to me it shouldn&#039;t be that hard to break out of the 2+2=5 system we&#039;re in.But I&#039;ve been wrong before.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BrownArmy, post: 1443648, member: 18225"] I'll agree with that. But I'll posit that most people of either or any political persuasion realize on some visceral level that, at the very least, the political process is a complete sham. Politicians say what they say to get elected, and then, who knows! And the government machine rolls on, mostly to the benefit of corporations, the rich, and the government, in any order you pick. I'll also posit that, most people, without having done all the research, feel as well that aside from elections (where most people instinctively feel that wool is being pulled over their eyes), that the government in general doesn't serve their best interests. The next logical step would seem to be to inform the 'low-information voter', as oldngray puts it, or the non-voter (who doesn't not-vote out of protest, but out of sloth) of the inherent ridiculousness of the system and that we need something different on a structural level. I don't feel like voting in general as a process is the problem, the problem we really only get to vote for the man wearing two different hats. So if the majority of people realize they're getting screwed, it seems to me it shouldn't be that hard to break out of the 2+2=5 system we're in. But I've been wrong before. [/QUOTE]

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