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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 805080" data-attributes="member: 2189">Very good points trplnkl! I think your point about organized religions and govt&#039;s making the rules on policing morals is a very good point even moreso. Thanks for chiming in on the subject!&nbsp;&nbsp;You didn&#039;t characterize Wiccanism with Satanism (at least IMO you didn&#039;t) I added that just because a lot of people still make that leap but at the same time I did want to seperate them for this discussion because I also wanted to point out that both did indeed hold some level of moral compass while being mutually exclusive to one another. &nbsp;Lavey IMO was as much showman and salesman as he was a religious leader. Not only did he get more that 15 minutes of fame but he seemed to derive a pretty good living from it all as well. If the one sky god has his hucksters, does it not stand to reason that the anti sky god would have his? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very&nbsp; &nbsp; :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" />&nbsp;As to the comment about society and gov&#039;t having a shared value and not abusing power, IMO it could be possible but so far that Holy Grail seems a bit out of reach.&nbsp;<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful&nbsp; &nbsp; :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 805080, member: 2189"] Very good points trplnkl! I think your point about organized religions and govt's making the rules on policing morals is a very good point even moreso. Thanks for chiming in on the subject! You didn't characterize Wiccanism with Satanism (at least IMO you didn't) I added that just because a lot of people still make that leap but at the same time I did want to seperate them for this discussion because I also wanted to point out that both did indeed hold some level of moral compass while being mutually exclusive to one another. Lavey IMO was as much showman and salesman as he was a religious leader. Not only did he get more that 15 minutes of fame but he seemed to derive a pretty good living from it all as well. If the one sky god has his hucksters, does it not stand to reason that the anti sky god would have his? :happy-very: As to the comment about society and gov't having a shared value and not abusing power, IMO it could be possible but so far that Holy Grail seems a bit out of reach. :wink2::peaceful: [/QUOTE]

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