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Message: <blockquote data-quote="floridays" data-source="post: 4012486" data-attributes="member: 68849">My point is, speaking for myself, no one else, is you don't give a rats ass why the electoral college was instituted. You care nothing of the founders thinking or Constitution unless you see a way to use them to promote a personal belief.You have absolutely no idea why the states ratified the electoral college nor do you care. I'll make this extremely clear, understand this. No electoral college, no ratification of the Constitution, no ratified Constitution, no United States. No United States, no nation as it stands.  Period. This was not the only sticking point either. This board seems to be populated by a few factual illiterates. You guys aren't kids anymore, your boo boo's aren't just a funny thing. I understand the subversiveness of your type and those leading you useful idiots.</blockquote>