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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1137232" data-attributes="member: 17969">I am still confused over the &quot;lie&quot; part?&nbsp;&nbsp; Does it really matter if the President said at the time that it was Al Qaeda, Al Jazzera or Al Capone, all would have been wrong.&nbsp; INSTANT gratification is what the GOP faithful believe is the case with bengazi.There is NOTHING that could have been done to save those 4 americans.&nbsp; This has been stated OVER and OVER in the hearings on Bengazi.&nbsp; All this ridiculous &quot;arm chair&quot; military expertise coming from people who watch a single news channel and believe they have it all figured out.Despite the FACTS, despite the testimony, despite the reality, DOPEY things keep being thrown out there for the public consumption by the GOP talking heads.&nbsp; Just today, It was floated out by a Republican Congressman, that if OBAMA had just sent ONE fighter jet to fly over the embassy, the &quot;terrorists&quot; would have &quot;scattered&quot; and lives would have been saved.Just how ridiculous is that?First of all, it was midnight, DARK, and in the desert.&nbsp; Assembled in a residential neighborhood with poor lighting, How exactly was a fighter pilot suppose to navigate to the scene, fly around in the pitch black and scare off the &quot;terrorists?&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; How would the &quot;terrorists&quot; know who the fighter jet belonged too?&nbsp; Can you see markings on a jet flying in the pitch black sky at over 500MPH?&nbsp; Why would we risk an aircraft costing millions of dollars and a trained pilot to do a stunt show in the middle of the night?&nbsp; These are the kinds of stupid, yet repeated stories that keep getting floated out there as possibilities, and those &quot;inclined&quot; to watch fox news will believe.Face facts people.&nbsp; Whether it was a video that sparked the violence, or armed rebels freeing captured rebels at the CIA black site or little green men from mars, it makes NO difference.&nbsp; Those americans were going to be killed NO MATTER what ANYONE said or thought at that moment.Leon Panetta said he was NOT going to RISK further american lives without actual live information from people on the ground, and the goverment just didnt have that information.You all can cry till you are blue in the face, but the circumstances could NOT have been different.As for the 48% who believe this chitt, well, they also voted for Romney, how right did that turn out to be?PeaceTOS</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1137232, member: 17969"] I am still confused over the "lie" part? Does it really matter if the President said at the time that it was Al Qaeda, Al Jazzera or Al Capone, all would have been wrong. INSTANT gratification is what the GOP faithful believe is the case with bengazi. There is NOTHING that could have been done to save those 4 americans. This has been stated OVER and OVER in the hearings on Bengazi. All this ridiculous "arm chair" military expertise coming from people who watch a single news channel and believe they have it all figured out. Despite the FACTS, despite the testimony, despite the reality, DOPEY things keep being thrown out there for the public consumption by the GOP talking heads. Just today, It was floated out by a Republican Congressman, that if OBAMA had just sent ONE fighter jet to fly over the embassy, the "terrorists" would have "scattered" and lives would have been saved. Just how ridiculous is that? First of all, it was midnight, DARK, and in the desert. Assembled in a residential neighborhood with poor lighting, How exactly was a fighter pilot suppose to navigate to the scene, fly around in the pitch black and scare off the "terrorists?" How would the "terrorists" know who the fighter jet belonged too? Can you see markings on a jet flying in the pitch black sky at over 500MPH? Why would we risk an aircraft costing millions of dollars and a trained pilot to do a stunt show in the middle of the night? These are the kinds of stupid, yet repeated stories that keep getting floated out there as possibilities, and those "inclined" to watch fox news will believe. Face facts people. Whether it was a video that sparked the violence, or armed rebels freeing captured rebels at the CIA black site or little green men from mars, it makes NO difference. Those americans were going to be killed NO MATTER what ANYONE said or thought at that moment. Leon Panetta said he was NOT going to RISK further american lives without actual live information from people on the ground, and the goverment just didnt have that information. You all can cry till you are blue in the face, but the circumstances could NOT have been different. As for the 48% who believe this chitt, well, they also voted for Romney, how right did that turn out to be? Peace TOS [/QUOTE]

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