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Message: <blockquote data-quote="toonertoo" data-source="post: 1177350" data-attributes="member: 1944">It was not Iraq, and yes I am sad, but those guys and girls were brave and knew they were going to a war zone. They knew the chances and voluntarily took it for love of country.   And they deserve our utmost respect and have mine.  Bureaucrats, and state officials, such as our president, get protection, those who "volunteered" do not.  They are not armed, they are diplomats.  Which I dont think they should be there, that aside.    A war zone cannot be protected.  A government facility can be.  The fact that they call it phony, is why it is so bad.  War zone or not, it should be recognized and humble us, not thrown aside, as phony.</blockquote>