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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 822852" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>But as you can see exceptions are made. One was made for a courier here who wasn't eligible to apply. And funny thing about mgrs being evasive. If they've done things in the past that caused you to go to HR or even file a GFT you get to the point that you don't trust them or the process. A mgr who tells me that he did ask HR if I could withdraw from a position but doesn't know what the penalty is for doing so in hindsight does appear to be evasive, especially considering other things done and what others had reported. The week my warning letter was to go off last Sept I asked since warning letter expired that Friday would I be able to apply for a job I wanted that Friday. He said he would ask HR and later sent me a msg saying that I could apply. That Friday JCATS wouldn't let me apply, was able to the next day but position I wanted was gone. I asked him why did HR say I could but I couldn't, he then admitted he hadn't asked HR but just assumed I could. It's stuff like this that makes me think that all is rigged and I'm being screwed with. You can point at policy all you want, and certainly knowing what policy states I'm now better informed. But you aren't allowing for the human element, the behind the scenes machinations. I was using hyperbole about the spitting, but you want to put the responsibility 100% on me, but as I've said, you aren't here, don't know the things that have happened here. A cookie cutter one size fits all sounds great but rarely works perfect in practice. And by the way, congrats on getting your time in and your high pay and full pension. Those of us who are working for much less see things differently than you, with good cause.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 822852, member: 24302"] But as you can see exceptions are made. One was made for a courier here who wasn't eligible to apply. And funny thing about mgrs being evasive. If they've done things in the past that caused you to go to HR or even file a GFT you get to the point that you don't trust them or the process. A mgr who tells me that he did ask HR if I could withdraw from a position but doesn't know what the penalty is for doing so in hindsight does appear to be evasive, especially considering other things done and what others had reported. The week my warning letter was to go off last Sept I asked since warning letter expired that Friday would I be able to apply for a job I wanted that Friday. He said he would ask HR and later sent me a msg saying that I could apply. That Friday JCATS wouldn't let me apply, was able to the next day but position I wanted was gone. I asked him why did HR say I could but I couldn't, he then admitted he hadn't asked HR but just assumed I could. It's stuff like this that makes me think that all is rigged and I'm being screwed with. You can point at policy all you want, and certainly knowing what policy states I'm now better informed. But you aren't allowing for the human element, the behind the scenes machinations. I was using hyperbole about the spitting, but you want to put the responsibility 100% on me, but as I've said, you aren't here, don't know the things that have happened here. A cookie cutter one size fits all sounds great but rarely works perfect in practice. And by the way, congrats on getting your time in and your high pay and full pension. Those of us who are working for much less see things differently than you, with good cause. [/QUOTE]
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