Fighting the High Cost of Retirement

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Broke, diabetic, hbp, bad feet, elderly, estranged from family, leaching off dying father, had heart attack, buried in debt (not paying?), had Mexican parasite, can't stand or hike... Dude, we're doing you a favor. Camping is fine for some, but you are not one of them.

You need an over 62 apartment, lots of social services, and nearby access to a full service hospital. Let us know before you go permanently camping, so we can say farewell.
 

vantexan

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Broke, diabetic, hbp, bad feet, elderly, estranged from family, leaching off dying father, had heart attack, buried in debt (not paying?), had Mexican parasite, can't stand or hike... Dude, we're doing you a favor. Camping is fine for some, but you are not one of them.

You need an over 62 apartment, lots of social services, and nearby access to a full service hospital. Let us know before you go permanently camping, so we can say farewell.
Who's broke, I have a pension. Who's leaching? Out of an $1840 a month pension I give my mother $150, I pay half of my wife's $623 a month car payment, I pay my dad's Dish satellite bill, over $100 a month which I've been paying almost 6 years, and I'm constantly buying him sandwiches and sweets. Estranged from family? I sent my wife a dozen chocolate covered strawberries for Valentine's which she loved. I help out my sister all the time giving my nieces rides, and take my mom to doctor's appointments. And I pay on my medical debt and credit cards every month and will have them paid when Social Security starts next year.

The problem with you is you see a glass half empty instead of half full. You see living out of a car and trailer as being a bum. I see it as being an adventure. I love the Southwest. If you aren't familiar you'll never understand.
 

qdg2

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Nope, you can't stand anyone doing something you would never do yourself so you crap on their choices. Wherever one finds oneself in life one can choose what works best for them with the resources they have. Not necessarily what you think they should do.

There comes a point where some people can't work or don't want to if they can help it. I was going to take a temp job in Minnesota in March that would have required me to be on my feet on concrete floors 8+ hrs a night. Have been walking to try to strengthen my feet. I have neuropathy in them. I threw in the towel. Walking a mile really hurts. Instead I'm looking at a driving job in Missouri. Catch? I have to pass a DOT physical. Working towards getting my blood sugar at an allowable level which I should have been doing anyways. I'm a diabetic.

If I have to I will go back overseas. Only "strapped" if I stay in the States and pay rent when I'm down to just Social Security.
Nope.

NM to MN? OMG.

MO? Wow.

I can walk to a McDonald's.....they pay $14.... that's $2k a month.....seems that would get me out of a tent and econobox....but hey.

BTW, Newsflash: I COULD NOT CARE LESS. Remember: "Fighting the high cost of retirement"....your thread. Maybe you should add: "Please don't respond if you aren't broke and don't agree with living in a car and towable cot."

Say, what do you want me to say? You are angry because I'm not cheering you on......or whatever...I believe you keep saying "agree with someone's choices"...

Have you thought about IT classes....those folks can work from home....oops. And sit in a chair all day. But seriously...that's what they do. Pretty sure they don't care about your blood sugar level....

I will say, Youtube folks seem to make bucks doing all that car camping stuff. Having a Prius will suck in the liberals....try that.
 

qdg2

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Broke, diabetic, hbp, bad feet, elderly, estranged from family, leaching off dying father, had heart attack, buried in debt (not paying?), had Mexican parasite, can't stand or hike... Dude, we're doing you a favor. Camping is fine for some, but you are not one of them.

You need an over 62 apartment, lots of social services, and nearby access to a full service hospital. Let us know before you go permanently camping, so we can say farewell.
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Who's broke, I have a pension. Who's leaching? Out of an $1840 a month pension I give my mother $150, I pay half of my wife's $623 a month car payment, I pay my dad's Dish satellite bill, over $100 a month which I've been paying almost 6 years, and I'm constantly buying him sandwiches and sweets. Estranged from family? I sent my wife a dozen chocolate covered strawberries for Valentine's which she loved. I help out my sister all the time giving my nieces rides, and take my mom to doctor's appointments. And I pay on my medical debt and credit cards every month and will have them paid when Social Security starts next year.

The problem with you is you see a glass half empty instead of half full. You see living out of a car and trailer as being a bum. I see it as being an adventure. I love the Southwest. If you aren't familiar you'll never understand.
Which is it?
 

vantexan

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Nope.

NM to MN? OMG.

MO? Wow.

I can walk to a McDonald's.....they pay $14.... that's $2k a month.....seems that would get me out of a tent and econobox....but hey.

BTW, Newsflash: I COULD NOT CARE LESS. Remember: "Fighting the high cost of retirement"....your thread. Maybe you should add: "Please don't respond if you aren't broke and don't agree with living in a car and towable cot."

Say, what do you want me to say? You are angry because I'm not cheering you on......or whatever...I believe you keep saying "agree with someone's choices"...

Have you thought about IT classes....those folks can work from home....oops. And sit in a chair all day. But seriously...that's what they do. Pretty sure they don't care about your blood sugar level....

I will say, Youtube folks seem to make bucks doing all that car camping stuff. Having a Prius will suck in the liberals....try that.
How old are you? I'm 61. I'm retired. Looking at a temp job where I don't have to be on my feet. Worked a long time to have the freedom to do what I want. It's not perfect, but it's better than going back to work doing things I either have no desire to do or can't physically do. For some reason you think it's necessary to work until you can't. I want the freedom to do what I want without answering to someone else. And am just about there. More to life than money. Hope you figure that out someday.
 

vantexan

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.....

Which is it?
All the above. Life happens. But I'm not a cripple who can't walk. The parasite is long gone. Just because something happens at one time doesn't mean that it stays that way forever. If that is the way your life goes I hope you don't ever have anything negative happen to you.
 

oldngray

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He’s not worth the time. He feeds off negativity
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Jiangshi

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Who's broke, I have a pension. Who's leaching? Out of an $1840 a month pension I give my mother $150, I pay half of my wife's $623 a month car payment, I pay my dad's Dish satellite bill, over $100 a month which I've been paying almost 6 years, and I'm constantly buying him sandwiches and sweets. Estranged from family? I sent my wife a dozen chocolate covered strawberries for Valentine's which she loved. I help out my sister all the time giving my nieces rides, and take my mom to doctor's appointments. And I pay on my medical debt and credit cards every month and will have them paid when Social Security starts next year.

The problem with you is you see a glass half empty instead of half full. You see living out of a car and trailer as being a bum. I see it as being an adventure. I love the Southwest. If you aren't familiar you'll never understand.

If you say so Sunshine. Hope that keeping up with the Jones's lifestyle is working out for you.

How old are you? I'm 61. I'm retired. Looking at a temp job where I don't have to be on my feet. Worked a long time to have the freedom to do what I want. It's not perfect, but it's better than going back to work doing things I either have no desire to do or can't physically do. For some reason you think it's necessary to work until you can't. I want the freedom to do what I want without answering to someone else. And am just about there. More to life than money. Hope you figure that out someday.

All the above. Life happens. But I'm not a cripple who can't walk. The parasite is long gone. Just because something happens at one time doesn't mean that it stays that way forever. If that is the way your life goes I hope you don't ever have anything negative happen to you.
Have you paid the tax you owe?
 

bacha29

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For those not familiar with nicer RV's available today:

Nice but the trouble is by the time you get sales tax and tags you're looking at 110K plus a 75K truck big enough to pull it without get pushed all over the road and will struggle to do 10-11MPG. Both are among the fastest depreciating pieces of equipment known to the US economy. And the numbers are even worse if it's all borrowed money. So in the end if it's all a financed deal you're parting company with 200K. And in the end when advancing age catches up with you ,you still have to find a place to take up residence . One that hopefully is close to the kinds of services that will be needed going forward.

If you can afford it, it will be a nice life....for a little while.
 

bacha29

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Nope, you can't stand anyone doing something you would never do yourself so you crap on their choices. Wherever one finds oneself in life one can choose what works best for them with the resources they have. Not necessarily what you think they should do.

There comes a point where some people can't work or don't want to if they can help it. I was going to take a temp job in Minnesota in March that would have required me to be on my feet on concrete floors 8+ hrs a night. Have been walking to try to strengthen my feet. I have neuropathy in them. I threw in the towel. Walking a mile really hurts. Instead I'm looking at a driving job in Missouri. Catch? I have to pass a DOT physical. Working towards getting my blood sugar at an allowable level which I should have been doing anyways. I'm a diabetic.

If I have to I will go back overseas. Only "strapped" if I stay in the States and pay rent when I'm down to just Social Security.
I commend you for your knowledge about how to travel freely and safely including some of the most hostile and unstable parts of the world.
At the same time I think the first thing you should do would be to bring closure to your relationship matters so that they won't encumber you going forward. especially when you consider the fact that you are too old and too sick to bum around the country and world as a transient worker.

Nobody should be required to follow a standard course of living at this stage of their life but at the same time there still has to be a reasonably sound and predictable sense of direction that can provide secure and protect your overall well being.
 

vantexan

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Nice but the trouble is by the time you get sales tax and tags you're looking at 110K plus a 75K truck big enough to pull it without get pushed all over the road and will struggle to do 10-11MPG. Both are among the fastest depreciating pieces of equipment known to the US economy. And the numbers are even worse if it's all borrowed money. So in the end if it's all a financed deal you're parting company with 200K. And in the end when advancing age catches up with you ,you still have to find a place to take up residence . One that hopefully is close to the kinds of services that will be needed going forward.

If you can afford it, it will be a nice life....for a little while.
Or you could do like a lot of people, find one that's for sale that was owned by an older couple but one passed away and is now being sold for a lot less. Put it in a nice park and leave it there. No need for a tow vehicle. If you're in your 60's should last you the rest of your life and it will eventually pay for itself and then some over renting a home. There's more ways than just the worst case scenario to handle these things.
 

vantexan

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I commend you for your knowledge about how to travel freely and safely including some of the most hostile and unstable parts of the world.
At the same time I think the first thing you should do would be to bring closure to your relationship matters so that they won't encumber you going forward. especially when you consider the fact that you are too old and too sick to bum around the country and world as a transient worker.

Nobody should be required to follow a standard course of living at this stage of their life but at the same time there still has to be a reasonably sound and predictable sense of direction that can provide secure and protect your overall well being.
Bacha, life is short. You may be planning to live until 120 but I doubt I'll make 80. That's less than 19 years. If I die, I die. I'd rather do it my way than have my life controlled by a boss in a meaningless job until it's then controlled by a nursing home staff. If the time comes that I'll need fulltime care I'll move to the Philippines and have a young maid look after me in exchange for a salary, room, and board.
 

bacha29

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Or you could do like a lot of people, find one that's for sale that was owned by an older couple but one passed away and is now being sold for a lot less. Put it in a nice park and leave it there. No need for a tow vehicle. If you're in your 60's should last you the rest of your life and it will eventually pay for itself and then some over renting a home. There's more ways than just the worst case scenario to handle these things.
Living in a trailer court huh? You're only as good there as the people, services and overall conditions that surround you. If the people there have decent incomes, live responsibly, keep their lot clean and and trailers well maintained and tidy it might not be bad at all. But if none of these advantages are in play and the trailer park owner is one of those guys who just sit back and count up the cash it would not be a good place to be at all.
 

vantexan

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Living in a trailer court huh? You're only as good there as the people, services and overall conditions that surround you. If the people there have decent incomes, live responsibly, keep their lot clean and and trailers well maintained and tidy it might not be bad at all. But if none of these advantages are in play and the trailer park owner is one of those guys who just sit back and count up the cash it would not be a good place to be at all.
This isn't white trash hooterville we're talking about. As I've pointed out before I've had half million dollar motorhomes parked next to me. RV parks are a lot different than mobile home parks.
 
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