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Fired and union did not accurately represent me.
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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 824189" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>TOS</p><p> </p><p>We are not talking two years, we are talking 30 days. And like it or not, the company WAS kept in the loop as to what was going on. The driver did not have the oppertunity to call, he was in jail. So he did what he could to notify the company as to what was going on, including a letter from the police department. </p><p> </p><p>You are correct, a doctors note is needed after a certain period of time. But with that note, you are excused from work for what ever time limit is suggested by the doctor. The driver is unable to report for work until such a time as he can. All it takes is one notification that he will not be back to work until the 30 days are up. They were notified in writing of his inability to show up for work.</p><p> </p><p>As for feelings, I dont have any. I have been called a feelingless ba$turd many a time. Feeling dont play into the subject at hand. You keep repeating no call, no show, he called. Pure and simple. Quit trying to make it something its not.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>What is obvious is that he was not able to assist in his defense. He was not able to respond to the charges, the union took that responsibility. You ask for objective data, there has been too little here to pass a good decision on. Too many things have not been posted in regards to the case. The driver has the rights to assist in his defense in this case, and both the union and the company should allow the hearing to take place. The outcome probably will not change, but at least the contract was followed, and he gets his day in "court"</p><p> </p><p>As a side bar to this conversation, I was ordered to be in court once, and because UPS would not let me off, I also had a warrant issued for me. Does that make me a criminal like you want to paint this guy? And if part of his community service had to be done during working hours during the week, and UPS did not let him have off.......As you can see, there are other possibilities that could affect the outcome. All these things I have seen during my time at brown. So this is not wishful feelings.</p><p> </p><p>Im not saying let the guy have his job back, personally based on what he posted, I dont think that will happen. But let the guy have his hearing. Then both sides can live with the results.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 824189, member: 484"] TOS We are not talking two years, we are talking 30 days. And like it or not, the company WAS kept in the loop as to what was going on. The driver did not have the oppertunity to call, he was in jail. So he did what he could to notify the company as to what was going on, including a letter from the police department. You are correct, a doctors note is needed after a certain period of time. But with that note, you are excused from work for what ever time limit is suggested by the doctor. The driver is unable to report for work until such a time as he can. All it takes is one notification that he will not be back to work until the 30 days are up. They were notified in writing of his inability to show up for work. As for feelings, I dont have any. I have been called a feelingless ba$turd many a time. Feeling dont play into the subject at hand. You keep repeating no call, no show, he called. Pure and simple. Quit trying to make it something its not. What is obvious is that he was not able to assist in his defense. He was not able to respond to the charges, the union took that responsibility. You ask for objective data, there has been too little here to pass a good decision on. Too many things have not been posted in regards to the case. The driver has the rights to assist in his defense in this case, and both the union and the company should allow the hearing to take place. The outcome probably will not change, but at least the contract was followed, and he gets his day in "court" As a side bar to this conversation, I was ordered to be in court once, and because UPS would not let me off, I also had a warrant issued for me. Does that make me a criminal like you want to paint this guy? And if part of his community service had to be done during working hours during the week, and UPS did not let him have off.......As you can see, there are other possibilities that could affect the outcome. All these things I have seen during my time at brown. So this is not wishful feelings. Im not saying let the guy have his job back, personally based on what he posted, I dont think that will happen. But let the guy have his hearing. Then both sides can live with the results. d [/QUOTE]
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