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Fired and union did not accurately represent me.
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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 824549" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>Bug</p><p> </p><p>If you continue reading the rest, it says </p><p> </p><p>"<strong>If the leave is not foreseeable, the employee shall submit the written request as soon as possible, and shall include an explanation why the leave was not forseeable."</strong></p><p> </p><p>One problem, he did not submit the request. Neither did the union, who should be looking out for the members best interests. And that is why he should have his chance at a hearing with him present.</p><p> </p><p>Further though, it says</p><p> </p><p>"<strong>The employer and union shall respond to the request in writing within ten (10) days after receiving the request."</strong></p><p> </p><p>Well, per the poster, the company did respond within 10 days, by sending him the certified letter. I dont know if they gave a warning letter first, or jumped straight to termination, but they did respond. But no word of what the union did. So again, the company complied, but not the union.</p><p> </p><p>Also, when you put your written request in, even after the fact, the contract does not state anywhere that the company must honor your request. All it says is that they must respond. So in this case, if he had requested the leave after the fact, they would totally be within their rights to say no to the request, and demand that he return to work. Section 2 does not give the employee an automatic leave, even if it is put in writing, and even after the fact.</p><p> </p><p>So again my stand is that the employee should have a hearing at which he can participate. The union in this case clearly did not attempt to look out for the rights of the member.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 824549, member: 484"] Bug If you continue reading the rest, it says "[B]If the leave is not foreseeable, the employee shall submit the written request as soon as possible, and shall include an explanation why the leave was not forseeable."[/B] One problem, he did not submit the request. Neither did the union, who should be looking out for the members best interests. And that is why he should have his chance at a hearing with him present. Further though, it says "[B]The employer and union shall respond to the request in writing within ten (10) days after receiving the request."[/B] Well, per the poster, the company did respond within 10 days, by sending him the certified letter. I dont know if they gave a warning letter first, or jumped straight to termination, but they did respond. But no word of what the union did. So again, the company complied, but not the union. Also, when you put your written request in, even after the fact, the contract does not state anywhere that the company must honor your request. All it says is that they must respond. So in this case, if he had requested the leave after the fact, they would totally be within their rights to say no to the request, and demand that he return to work. Section 2 does not give the employee an automatic leave, even if it is put in writing, and even after the fact. So again my stand is that the employee should have a hearing at which he can participate. The union in this case clearly did not attempt to look out for the rights of the member. d [/QUOTE]
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