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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 897633" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Well there are some key points to discover before we blame UPS for everything. While I agree, that UPS has stepped up discipline since the introduction of Telematics and GPS, we have to examime the facts of this particular case first.</p><p></p><p>For example, How far away from the intended addresses was the driver. If he was close, lets say within a mile and he could see the area and it didnt appear "safe", then I say he's ok, but if he was MILES away and not within eyesight of the area and he decided to sheet them improperly, then I say its a different scenario.</p><p></p><p>The addition of GPS adds an element of dishonesty to the equation. Lets say the driver told his center team that he drove up to the location and it appeared unsafe, then the company looks at telematics and it puts him 3 miles away, then, the driver would be guilty of dishonesty for lying about his location. If you apply article 6 properly (NMA) then that language benefits the company in that scenario and he could be discharged.</p><p></p><p>All drivers should take GPS and telematics seriously and change behaviors they may otherwise be used to performing. Things like DR'ing a NDA package two streets away at 10:29am in order to be ontime. This is the easiest thing UPS uses to fire drivers, but drivers still attempt to do it.</p><p></p><p>As far as rubbing safety in anyones face, I dont think thats in the cards. This driver made a serious judgement error and that is no fault of the company. It was a mistake to sheet them improperly without asking for instructions from the center team.</p><p></p><p>The company should return him to work without a long delay, but this driver should heed the warnings and do the job correctly to protect himself in the future.</p><p></p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 897633, member: 17969"] Well there are some key points to discover before we blame UPS for everything. While I agree, that UPS has stepped up discipline since the introduction of Telematics and GPS, we have to examime the facts of this particular case first. For example, How far away from the intended addresses was the driver. If he was close, lets say within a mile and he could see the area and it didnt appear "safe", then I say he's ok, but if he was MILES away and not within eyesight of the area and he decided to sheet them improperly, then I say its a different scenario. The addition of GPS adds an element of dishonesty to the equation. Lets say the driver told his center team that he drove up to the location and it appeared unsafe, then the company looks at telematics and it puts him 3 miles away, then, the driver would be guilty of dishonesty for lying about his location. If you apply article 6 properly (NMA) then that language benefits the company in that scenario and he could be discharged. All drivers should take GPS and telematics seriously and change behaviors they may otherwise be used to performing. Things like DR'ing a NDA package two streets away at 10:29am in order to be ontime. This is the easiest thing UPS uses to fire drivers, but drivers still attempt to do it. As far as rubbing safety in anyones face, I dont think thats in the cards. This driver made a serious judgement error and that is no fault of the company. It was a mistake to sheet them improperly without asking for instructions from the center team. The company should return him to work without a long delay, but this driver should heed the warnings and do the job correctly to protect himself in the future. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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