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<blockquote data-quote="104Feeder" data-source="post: 1043946" data-attributes="member: 42554"><p>It's wouldn't be applicable because he isn't under that supplement. The dishonesty comes into play if 1. he denies signing it (the OP didn't) and 2. signed for some other purpose other than outright stealing the package, such as to make a commit time. </p><p></p><p>Customer says "I didn't sign for it"</p><p>Mgmt says "Hey, the Customer says he didn't sign for this"</p><p>Driver says "The Customer didn't sign, I did"</p><p>Where is the dishonesty?</p><p></p><p>The OP made a poor decision but it doesn't seem like he had any intent to be dishonest. If it were me I would have slid a notice in front the consignee and left. Sure, it would have probably prompted a center call to return later but you can bet that consignee would put the person on hold the next time I came through the door. It's called training your customers. </p><p></p><p>When I was a Driver even long time customers would say "just sign my name" when they missed a delivery or were busy. Yeah, not happening. </p><p></p><p>This is probably going to be an expensive lesson but if for some reason they push for termination I would certainly bring up that there is one "free pass" for this same offense in AZ & get some case histories.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="104Feeder, post: 1043946, member: 42554"] It's wouldn't be applicable because he isn't under that supplement. The dishonesty comes into play if 1. he denies signing it (the OP didn't) and 2. signed for some other purpose other than outright stealing the package, such as to make a commit time. Customer says "I didn't sign for it" Mgmt says "Hey, the Customer says he didn't sign for this" Driver says "The Customer didn't sign, I did" Where is the dishonesty? The OP made a poor decision but it doesn't seem like he had any intent to be dishonest. If it were me I would have slid a notice in front the consignee and left. Sure, it would have probably prompted a center call to return later but you can bet that consignee would put the person on hold the next time I came through the door. It's called training your customers. When I was a Driver even long time customers would say "just sign my name" when they missed a delivery or were busy. Yeah, not happening. This is probably going to be an expensive lesson but if for some reason they push for termination I would certainly bring up that there is one "free pass" for this same offense in AZ & get some case histories. [/QUOTE]
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