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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3227116" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>I admit I was mistaken on one point, but I'm fairly certain I got it corrected in the second post. The fact that the contract does not state that clocking out without checking with management is terminable makes it much easier to establish past practices. Past practices are not on an individual or case by case basis. So the fact that the OP was only back for 3 weeks has no bearing on past practices, if what he says about other people doing the same thing without discipline is true.</p><p></p><p>This case is also complicated by the fact that UPS does not have scheduled end times for shifts, simply start times and guaranteed paid time. The company may have a case if he clocked out prior to the guaranteed time with the intention of receiving the guaranteed pay. Job abandonment simply means that a person has left the job with no intention of returning without telling anyone. Management has a habit of redefining terms to suit their needs and make employees actions sound much worse than they are. Clocking out without permission is a write up at best, that's all there is to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3227116, member: 63706"] I admit I was mistaken on one point, but I'm fairly certain I got it corrected in the second post. The fact that the contract does not state that clocking out without checking with management is terminable makes it much easier to establish past practices. Past practices are not on an individual or case by case basis. So the fact that the OP was only back for 3 weeks has no bearing on past practices, if what he says about other people doing the same thing without discipline is true. This case is also complicated by the fact that UPS does not have scheduled end times for shifts, simply start times and guaranteed paid time. The company may have a case if he clocked out prior to the guaranteed time with the intention of receiving the guaranteed pay. Job abandonment simply means that a person has left the job with no intention of returning without telling anyone. Management has a habit of redefining terms to suit their needs and make employees actions sound much worse than they are. Clocking out without permission is a write up at best, that's all there is to it. [/QUOTE]
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