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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3229810" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>I'm including myself among those forum dwellers, so it was more self-deprecation than derision. The point I'm making is that if everyone assumes guilt, and no one stands on the side of the employee, how is that helpful? If we argue the theoretical case, the OP can get a better sense of what they're in for. I'll take the opportunity to learn something in the process too. But you folks, with your experience, start making a lot of assumptions based on those experiences, which I agree can be a good thing, but it can also blind you to the realities of the current situation. You start seeing what you expect to see.</p><p></p><p>From my reading of the OP subsequent posts, which weren't in consideration for my original argument, the day in question the OP says he was told to shut down, that he was done. The day he was told to stay in his area was a different day in the previous week. He did word it somewhat awkwardly, so I understand the confusion. I just hope that, in cases you represent, you actually take the time to listen to the employee, and not just assume they are guilty out the gate.</p><p></p><p>I do appreciate you taking the time to share your experience in dealing with these situations. Better I learn here than with a case I'm actually representing. And, from what the OP has written, it seems like the BA and I are on the same page, so there's that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3229810, member: 63706"] I'm including myself among those forum dwellers, so it was more self-deprecation than derision. The point I'm making is that if everyone assumes guilt, and no one stands on the side of the employee, how is that helpful? If we argue the theoretical case, the OP can get a better sense of what they're in for. I'll take the opportunity to learn something in the process too. But you folks, with your experience, start making a lot of assumptions based on those experiences, which I agree can be a good thing, but it can also blind you to the realities of the current situation. You start seeing what you expect to see. From my reading of the OP subsequent posts, which weren't in consideration for my original argument, the day in question the OP says he was told to shut down, that he was done. The day he was told to stay in his area was a different day in the previous week. He did word it somewhat awkwardly, so I understand the confusion. I just hope that, in cases you represent, you actually take the time to listen to the employee, and not just assume they are guilty out the gate. I do appreciate you taking the time to share your experience in dealing with these situations. Better I learn here than with a case I'm actually representing. And, from what the OP has written, it seems like the BA and I are on the same page, so there's that. [/QUOTE]
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