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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 751408" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I'm glad you posted that Baba because there is a stark contrasting difference IMO of the original BP movement and the NBP movement of today although in fairness I hold a big gain of salt because of past <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">COINTELPRO</span></a> actions by the State.</p><p></p><p>The original BP movement was influenced by 1960's events and Macolm X but all were direct descendents of Booker T. Washington and Marcus Garvey who rightly pointed out the pure lack of self autonomy and independence (political, social and economic) the black community had and their desire for a type localism where they controlled events, actions and community at the local level. Move aside race and party politics and a lot of what the tea party advocates today is very similar in localist type to what the heritage of the black freedom movement is/was all about IMO. Maybe framed different but the same issues and concerns are much at heart of what was said in both movements.</p><p></p><p>For those who are really for smaller/less gov't especially at the larger, far away level, put aside the stirred up fears generated by the likes of Hoover and of manical, power driven whites who only wanted to use the fear to quash another freedom movement away from the super state and at least look at some of the actual history. Is that any different from allegations of spying and threatneing intervention by the Federal State on the Tea Party movement or even actions of provocatuers to put a movement in a bad light? Does this sound familar folks? Wonder where they first learned how to do it?</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying you'll agree across the board with the original BP movement but you'll at least begin to appreciate where they were actually coming from and also get past the lie that all they wanted to do was take over elections to get a welfare check, as some of you may think that is the case. A lot of those leaders preached against such slavery (that's what they called gov't cheese) and advocated getting an education or trade skill and becoming small business people and tradesmen. Does that not have a good familar ring to it?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.blackpanther.org/legacynew.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">What Was The Black Panther Party</span></a></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: #000000">Here's a great discussion with Huey Newton which sadly as I can find so far only this 5 minutes exists on the net. </span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>[media=youtube]h4ypqCYPduI[/media]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: #000000">Who said that? Some limited gov't/libertarian type tea partier who wants to vastly cut down the size of the state?</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: #000000">None other than <a href="http://publicenemy-seale.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Bobby Seale</span></a> himself directly off his website!</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: #000000">Stop being a zombie to a narrative created by the state itself and actually go out and talk to people directly and you'll be shocked on how much common ground we 90%ers actually have with one another.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">Community Control Democracy doesn't sound like big gov't Washington to me at all. How many tea partiers are screaming for local control as well?</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 751408, member: 2189"] I'm glad you posted that Baba because there is a stark contrasting difference IMO of the original BP movement and the NBP movement of today although in fairness I hold a big gain of salt because of past [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO'][COLOR=red]COINTELPRO[/COLOR][/URL] actions by the State. The original BP movement was influenced by 1960's events and Macolm X but all were direct descendents of Booker T. Washington and Marcus Garvey who rightly pointed out the pure lack of self autonomy and independence (political, social and economic) the black community had and their desire for a type localism where they controlled events, actions and community at the local level. Move aside race and party politics and a lot of what the tea party advocates today is very similar in localist type to what the heritage of the black freedom movement is/was all about IMO. Maybe framed different but the same issues and concerns are much at heart of what was said in both movements. For those who are really for smaller/less gov't especially at the larger, far away level, put aside the stirred up fears generated by the likes of Hoover and of manical, power driven whites who only wanted to use the fear to quash another freedom movement away from the super state and at least look at some of the actual history. Is that any different from allegations of spying and threatneing intervention by the Federal State on the Tea Party movement or even actions of provocatuers to put a movement in a bad light? Does this sound familar folks? Wonder where they first learned how to do it? I'm not saying you'll agree across the board with the original BP movement but you'll at least begin to appreciate where they were actually coming from and also get past the lie that all they wanted to do was take over elections to get a welfare check, as some of you may think that is the case. A lot of those leaders preached against such slavery (that's what they called gov't cheese) and advocated getting an education or trade skill and becoming small business people and tradesmen. Does that not have a good familar ring to it? [URL='http://www.blackpanther.org/legacynew.htm'][COLOR=red]What Was The Black Panther Party[/COLOR][/URL] [COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]Here's a great discussion with Huey Newton which sadly as I can find so far only this 5 minutes exists on the net. [/COLOR][/COLOR] [media=youtube]h4ypqCYPduI[/media] [COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]Who said that? Some limited gov't/libertarian type tea partier who wants to vastly cut down the size of the state?[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]None other than [URL='http://publicenemy-seale.com/'][COLOR=red]Bobby Seale[/COLOR][/URL] himself directly off his website![/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]Stop being a zombie to a narrative created by the state itself and actually go out and talk to people directly and you'll be shocked on how much common ground we 90%ers actually have with one another.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]:peaceful:[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Community Control Democracy doesn't sound like big gov't Washington to me at all. How many tea partiers are screaming for local control as well?[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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