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<blockquote data-quote="8Keys" data-source="post: 1169994" data-attributes="member: 48236"><p>Don't let these drivers blow smoke. Full timers aren't so special. They were just fortunate enough to get the job at the right time, or patient enough to wait for it. I guarantee the ones who waited 10 years are not the ones on this forum claiming that part time work is not a career! If you got 22.2 bid as a full time loader, you would jump to top rate after progression and make nearly the same as a driver. As part time loader, after "progression" you aren't even making half as much to do the exact same work. But the again, the part timers who started in the early 80s are making as much per hour as full timers, while the part timers who start today will never get close to top rate without going full time. Something has changed dramatically in the last 25 years and the part timers are now subsidizing the full timers who make 3 times as much as them. Even 22.3 full timers make far less than red circled part timers, which could never happen if the quality of life for part timers hadn't eroded so much over the last 5 contracts. That pressure will eventually lead to lower rate driving jobs as well, just wait and see. Feeder driver is a skilled position which has market value outside of UPS. Package car driver, not so much. You all were trained on the job, same as the sorters, hazmat responders, etc. Don't kid yourselves for a minute. There are tons of guys on the street who would love to have your job for $20 an hour top rate, and UPS would be glad to train them to do it. Of course if we were to go on strike there is no way the company could get enough people trained to cover the work, but the same goes for inside work as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="8Keys, post: 1169994, member: 48236"] Don't let these drivers blow smoke. Full timers aren't so special. They were just fortunate enough to get the job at the right time, or patient enough to wait for it. I guarantee the ones who waited 10 years are not the ones on this forum claiming that part time work is not a career! If you got 22.2 bid as a full time loader, you would jump to top rate after progression and make nearly the same as a driver. As part time loader, after "progression" you aren't even making half as much to do the exact same work. But the again, the part timers who started in the early 80s are making as much per hour as full timers, while the part timers who start today will never get close to top rate without going full time. Something has changed dramatically in the last 25 years and the part timers are now subsidizing the full timers who make 3 times as much as them. Even 22.3 full timers make far less than red circled part timers, which could never happen if the quality of life for part timers hadn't eroded so much over the last 5 contracts. That pressure will eventually lead to lower rate driving jobs as well, just wait and see. Feeder driver is a skilled position which has market value outside of UPS. Package car driver, not so much. You all were trained on the job, same as the sorters, hazmat responders, etc. Don't kid yourselves for a minute. There are tons of guys on the street who would love to have your job for $20 an hour top rate, and UPS would be glad to train them to do it. Of course if we were to go on strike there is no way the company could get enough people trained to cover the work, but the same goes for inside work as well. [/QUOTE]
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