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<blockquote data-quote="cachsux" data-source="post: 604437" data-attributes="member: 5529"><p>I`m not trying to argue with you either. That said from the time I have been with the company,24 years, higher seniority people regardless of their social status with mgmt have exercised there seniority to stay or leave before junior people. It is not UPS` discretion,it is by seniority. Every work group has a seniority list and when they need to cut hours they go down the list. Now most sups are aware of who in their group want OT and who does not and they dont necessarily ask everyone but will go to he highest people first. If someone wants a short day they will let the sup know also. Most of the time,throughout the seniority list,they will find enough people to go but if push comes to shove seniority prevails,no exceptions.</p><p> And yes I myself as have others have filed for mgmt not following seniority for both instances,staying and going.</p><p>Usually this is when some one new in mgmt thinks they can pick and choose who to keep and to send home. The stewards have always handle the grievances locally and the company complies. Its been years since I`ve had to file as most of our mgmt team have been around for awhile. Most of the time their is no need,if some one junior is staying or leaving all a senior person has to do is point it out and that person will then also stay or go with the junior person.</p><p> </p><p>Think of it this way. You pick job bids,by seniority. Vacations,by seniority. Unpaid days off,by seniority. To stay and work OT,by seniority. So why in the choice of leaving you give up your seniority? Like I said maybe they don`t do it by you,they should. But it has always been done here,everyday.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cachsux, post: 604437, member: 5529"] I`m not trying to argue with you either. That said from the time I have been with the company,24 years, higher seniority people regardless of their social status with mgmt have exercised there seniority to stay or leave before junior people. It is not UPS` discretion,it is by seniority. Every work group has a seniority list and when they need to cut hours they go down the list. Now most sups are aware of who in their group want OT and who does not and they dont necessarily ask everyone but will go to he highest people first. If someone wants a short day they will let the sup know also. Most of the time,throughout the seniority list,they will find enough people to go but if push comes to shove seniority prevails,no exceptions. And yes I myself as have others have filed for mgmt not following seniority for both instances,staying and going. Usually this is when some one new in mgmt thinks they can pick and choose who to keep and to send home. The stewards have always handle the grievances locally and the company complies. Its been years since I`ve had to file as most of our mgmt team have been around for awhile. Most of the time their is no need,if some one junior is staying or leaving all a senior person has to do is point it out and that person will then also stay or go with the junior person. Think of it this way. You pick job bids,by seniority. Vacations,by seniority. Unpaid days off,by seniority. To stay and work OT,by seniority. So why in the choice of leaving you give up your seniority? Like I said maybe they don`t do it by you,they should. But it has always been done here,everyday. [/QUOTE]
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