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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 174774" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Excellent point Tie! That is very interesting is it not. What amazes me even more now is the change in some of the threads here. Sometime back, the APWA related threads were all from APWA spammers as they attempted to promote their cause. Now we have the anti-APWA crowd starting the threads to attack a movement that a few months ago these same folks were decrying as meaningless, a waste of time, stupid and going nowhere. Now it appears things are changing and IMO their attacks would seem to suggest APWA may be gaining some ground and have the IBT and it's fellow travelers a lot more concerned than they first suggested. </p><p> </p><p>I personally felt at best APWA was a ball bat that good UPS Teamster members could use to steer the leadership of the union but maybe even I underestimated their (APWA) movement and it could really have a much greater impact. Not signed a de-cert card myself and I'm inclined to take a wait and see approach (I like to force the salesman into really making them work for my business and never giving a clear indication of what I will do until I'm happy with the product and the price)just to allow one to be used against the other just to see what shakes out at the end of the day. I like the fact that APWA has them so nervous. Gives me hope we consumers could end up with a better deal than we got from either side that end up winning the day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 174774, member: 2189"] Excellent point Tie! That is very interesting is it not. What amazes me even more now is the change in some of the threads here. Sometime back, the APWA related threads were all from APWA spammers as they attempted to promote their cause. Now we have the anti-APWA crowd starting the threads to attack a movement that a few months ago these same folks were decrying as meaningless, a waste of time, stupid and going nowhere. Now it appears things are changing and IMO their attacks would seem to suggest APWA may be gaining some ground and have the IBT and it's fellow travelers a lot more concerned than they first suggested. I personally felt at best APWA was a ball bat that good UPS Teamster members could use to steer the leadership of the union but maybe even I underestimated their (APWA) movement and it could really have a much greater impact. Not signed a de-cert card myself and I'm inclined to take a wait and see approach (I like to force the salesman into really making them work for my business and never giving a clear indication of what I will do until I'm happy with the product and the price)just to allow one to be used against the other just to see what shakes out at the end of the day. I like the fact that APWA has them so nervous. Gives me hope we consumers could end up with a better deal than we got from either side that end up winning the day. [/QUOTE]
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