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<blockquote data-quote="oldngray" data-source="post: 1235434" data-attributes="member: 45230"><p>If you want to say skeptics are confusing weather with climate you need to remember the climate change proponents also use short term change and try to say it is long enough time period to qualify as geologic change. Sorry, but nope. And I agree with Hoax. Even if climate is changing there is no proof of cause and effect as to whether it is man made change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oldngray, post: 1235434, member: 45230"] If you want to say skeptics are confusing weather with climate you need to remember the climate change proponents also use short term change and try to say it is long enough time period to qualify as geologic change. Sorry, but nope. And I agree with Hoax. Even if climate is changing there is no proof of cause and effect as to whether it is man made change. [/QUOTE]
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