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<blockquote data-quote="roadrunner2012" data-source="post: 1278190" data-attributes="member: 40736">The one peer reviewed paper you posted a link to, but were obtuse about, referred to the climate 65 million years ago. No one is arguing that there have not been times in the pat that the temps and CO2 were higher. What most rational people are saying is that they have never been higher in the human era. That did not support your argument. If you had just posted the link to begin with, this could have been settled a week ago. Wading through your posts is no an enviable task, it dulls the mind after a few pages.This was what the earth was like 65 million years ago:<img src="http://www.geologywales.co.uk/storms/cret-climate.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />No one is arguing that the Earth has not been warmer in the past. What the argument is, that without apparent cause, other than human caused, the earth is warming again, after about 50 million years of cooling. The rate of change is faster than any time in the last 65 million years. This is not to say that the deity will decide to have Yellowstone blow, send an asteroid our way, or have the stored methane in the ocean release and plunge the earth into a millennium of cooling again, but the rate of change is unprecedented in the last 65 million years.You produced no peer reviewed papers to bolster your denier argument.Let a mod decide if you &#039;won your bet&#039;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="roadrunner2012, post: 1278190, member: 40736"] The one peer reviewed paper you posted a link to, but were obtuse about, referred to the climate 65 million years ago. No one is arguing that there have not been times in the pat that the temps and CO2 were higher. What most rational people are saying is that they have never been higher in the human era. That did not support your argument. If you had just posted the link to begin with, this could have been settled a week ago. Wading through your posts is no an enviable task, it dulls the mind after a few pages. This was what the earth was like 65 million years ago: [IMG]http://www.geologywales.co.uk/storms/cret-climate.jpg[/IMG] No one is arguing that the Earth has not been warmer in the past. What the argument is, that without apparent cause, other than human caused, the earth is warming again, after about 50 million years of cooling. The rate of change is faster than any time in the last 65 million years. This is not to say that the deity will decide to have Yellowstone blow, send an asteroid our way, or have the stored methane in the ocean release and plunge the earth into a millennium of cooling again, but the rate of change is unprecedented in the last 65 million years. You produced no peer reviewed papers to bolster your denier argument. Let a mod decide if you 'won your bet'. [/QUOTE]

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