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<blockquote data-quote="roadrunner2012" data-source="post: 1290592" data-attributes="member: 40736"><p>Not actual scientists versed on the subject.</p><p></p><p>So a gov't funded scientific study is the same as a crackpot's statements on a right wing blog that is repeated by a right wing tabloid? </p><p></p><p>Gotcha. As long as I'm clear on the rules you play by.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Did you read the article? Did you check the source?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews" target="_blank">http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews</a></p><p></p><p><em><strong>NaturalNews.com</strong> (formerly <strong>Newstarget</strong>) is an <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-science" target="_blank">anti-science</a> conspiracy website founded by <strong>Mike "the Health Ranger" Adams</strong>. The site promotes almost every sort of medical <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Woo" target="_blank">woo</a> known to human history, though it specializes in <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vaccine_denialism" target="_blank">vaccine denialism</a>,<a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-0" target="_blank">[1]</a> AIDS/<a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/HIV_denial" target="_blank">HIV denial</a>,<a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-1" target="_blank">[2]</a> <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cancer#Quack_cancer_treatments" target="_blank">quack cancer medicine</a><a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-2" target="_blank">[3]</a> and <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory" target="_blank">conspiracy theories</a> about modern medicine.<a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-3" target="_blank">[4]</a> Even other <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quack" target="_blank">quacks</a> think it's a quack site.<a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-4" target="_blank">[5]</a> The site has recently broadened to include <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hard_green" target="_blank">extreme environmentalism</a> and conspiracy theorizing about <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Obama" target="_blank">Obama</a> and <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gun_control" target="_blank">gun control</a>. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>If you cite NaturalNews on any matter whatsoever, <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scopie%27s_Law" target="_blank">you are almost certainly wrong</a>. </em></p><p></p><p></p><p>An actual US Senate report? I was waiting for the Inhofe report. Such an impeccable source to rely on.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/650Skeptics.HTM" target="_blank">http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/650Skeptics.HTM</a></p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002211/" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002211/</a></p><p></p><p>Both require actual reading, not headline skimming.</p><p></p><p>Here's a tidbit for you:</p><p><em>The list was compiled by Inhofe’s staff without prior consent by the scientists themselves; Parkinson says some have requested to be taken off the list. Moreover, only 15% of the scientists listed had published in the refereed literature on subjects related to climate science.<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002211/#b7-ehp-118-a536" target="_blank">7</a> Precisely how these individuals line up with respect to their own political views and funding isn’t disclosed in the report and therefore can’t be easily discerned.</em></p><p></p><p>Since moreluck has posted her obligatory cartoon, you lose <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="roadrunner2012, post: 1290592, member: 40736"] Not actual scientists versed on the subject. So a gov't funded scientific study is the same as a crackpot's statements on a right wing blog that is repeated by a right wing tabloid? Gotcha. As long as I'm clear on the rules you play by. Did you read the article? Did you check the source? [url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews[/url] [I][B]NaturalNews.com[/B] (formerly [B]Newstarget[/B]) is an [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-science']anti-science[/URL] conspiracy website founded by [B]Mike "the Health Ranger" Adams[/B]. The site promotes almost every sort of medical [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Woo']woo[/URL] known to human history, though it specializes in [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vaccine_denialism']vaccine denialism[/URL],[URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-0'][1][/URL] AIDS/[URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/HIV_denial']HIV denial[/URL],[URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-1'][2][/URL] [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cancer#Quack_cancer_treatments']quack cancer medicine[/URL][URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-2'][3][/URL] and [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory']conspiracy theories[/URL] about modern medicine.[URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-3'][4][/URL] Even other [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quack']quacks[/URL] think it's a quack site.[URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NaturalNews#cite_note-4'][5][/URL] The site has recently broadened to include [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hard_green']extreme environmentalism[/URL] and conspiracy theorizing about [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Obama']Obama[/URL] and [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gun_control']gun control[/URL]. If you cite NaturalNews on any matter whatsoever, [URL='http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scopie%27s_Law']you are almost certainly wrong[/URL]. [/I] [I][/I] An actual US Senate report? I was waiting for the Inhofe report. Such an impeccable source to rely on. [url]http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/650Skeptics.HTM[/url] and [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002211/[/url] Both require actual reading, not headline skimming. Here's a tidbit for you: [I]The list was compiled by Inhofe’s staff without prior consent by the scientists themselves; Parkinson says some have requested to be taken off the list. Moreover, only 15% of the scientists listed had published in the refereed literature on subjects related to climate science.[URL='http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002211/#b7-ehp-118-a536']7[/URL] Precisely how these individuals line up with respect to their own political views and funding isn’t disclosed in the report and therefore can’t be easily discerned.[/I] Since moreluck has posted her obligatory cartoon, you lose ;) [/QUOTE]
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