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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 615496" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>The problem with your case is really simple. YOU ARE GUILTY.</p><p> </p><p>You admit that you "KNEW" there was a rash of thefts on your belt, then you say, that other drivers were complaining that pkgs were missing, then reappearing taped up the next day.</p><p> </p><p>Then, you see an "off area" pkg in your car, alledgedly damaged in your pkg car, then you get the pkg and begin to "retape" it shut, but the dye pack which is DESIGNED to blow once the "flaps" are completely lifted into the open position, goes off on you, then you simply continue to retape and move along in your day without MAKING CONTACT WITH THE CENTER to report the incident.</p><p> </p><p>You then turn in the "retaped" pkg to the clerk at the end of the day and think you will walk away scott free. The fact that nothing was taken out of the pkg "means" nothing. Clearly, once you got hit with the dye, you wouldnt dare take anything out of it. There goes that part of your defense.</p><p> </p><p>Why didnt you call the center IMMEDIATELY to notify them that a pkg. blew dye on your hands?? This alone shows that you "intended" to conceal your actions. Hazmat proceedures alone dictate that you notify the center should you come into contact with any material leaking from a pkg, yet you failed to follow proceedure. The question then is: WHY?</p><p> </p><p>The company DOES NOT have to prove that you stole anything, despite your whinning about it. All they have to prove is that you "intended" to steal something and they set you up with the opportunity, the pkg and you have the evidence on your hands.</p><p> </p><p>I dont have any sympathy for a thief. I am also unmoved by the fact that you have children. You should have followed proceedure and maintained the highest level of integrity.</p><p> </p><p>Instead, you did the wrong thing. Who knows if your a thief or not but you. Some people do stupid things. Some think they got it all figured out when they dont. You did what most thieves do, they "attempt" to steal.</p><p> </p><p>Its the rush thats the addiction. Your story makes no sense in the manner you told it on this board.</p><p> </p><p>The company placed an "off area" salt in your pkg car, this is how it is done. The rational for it is simple, a thief will "think" they can steal the contents as no one will know its in your truck. If the pkg actually belonged to your route, you would not take the risk as it appears in your edd, but the salt wouldnt.</p><p> </p><p>Why dont you enlighten all of us and tell us what the contents were in this particular pkg? I am sure they will be drugs.</p><p> </p><p>Additionally, I am sure UPS isnt making the stretch that you are responsible for all the other thefts on the belt, but the only thing they have to prove is that you were "dishonest" in the way you handled it.</p><p> </p><p>Based upon your explanations and my history with UPS (20years) and being involved with the Union at an executive level, I too disbelieve you.</p><p> </p><p>I can be emotionless because I am unmoved by the emotions you are seeking. I seek facts and yours just dont add up.</p><p> </p><p>If you know that you opened that pkg and it blew on your hands, you dont have to tell us, let it go, then go home, face your wife and tell her that you are guity and ask for her forgiveness. She is the one that matters, not us on this board.</p><p> </p><p>Find a new job and find your integrity.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 615496, member: 17969"] The problem with your case is really simple. YOU ARE GUILTY. You admit that you "KNEW" there was a rash of thefts on your belt, then you say, that other drivers were complaining that pkgs were missing, then reappearing taped up the next day. Then, you see an "off area" pkg in your car, alledgedly damaged in your pkg car, then you get the pkg and begin to "retape" it shut, but the dye pack which is DESIGNED to blow once the "flaps" are completely lifted into the open position, goes off on you, then you simply continue to retape and move along in your day without MAKING CONTACT WITH THE CENTER to report the incident. You then turn in the "retaped" pkg to the clerk at the end of the day and think you will walk away scott free. The fact that nothing was taken out of the pkg "means" nothing. Clearly, once you got hit with the dye, you wouldnt dare take anything out of it. There goes that part of your defense. Why didnt you call the center IMMEDIATELY to notify them that a pkg. blew dye on your hands?? This alone shows that you "intended" to conceal your actions. Hazmat proceedures alone dictate that you notify the center should you come into contact with any material leaking from a pkg, yet you failed to follow proceedure. The question then is: WHY? The company DOES NOT have to prove that you stole anything, despite your whinning about it. All they have to prove is that you "intended" to steal something and they set you up with the opportunity, the pkg and you have the evidence on your hands. I dont have any sympathy for a thief. I am also unmoved by the fact that you have children. You should have followed proceedure and maintained the highest level of integrity. Instead, you did the wrong thing. Who knows if your a thief or not but you. Some people do stupid things. Some think they got it all figured out when they dont. You did what most thieves do, they "attempt" to steal. Its the rush thats the addiction. Your story makes no sense in the manner you told it on this board. The company placed an "off area" salt in your pkg car, this is how it is done. The rational for it is simple, a thief will "think" they can steal the contents as no one will know its in your truck. If the pkg actually belonged to your route, you would not take the risk as it appears in your edd, but the salt wouldnt. Why dont you enlighten all of us and tell us what the contents were in this particular pkg? I am sure they will be drugs. Additionally, I am sure UPS isnt making the stretch that you are responsible for all the other thefts on the belt, but the only thing they have to prove is that you were "dishonest" in the way you handled it. Based upon your explanations and my history with UPS (20years) and being involved with the Union at an executive level, I too disbelieve you. I can be emotionless because I am unmoved by the emotions you are seeking. I seek facts and yours just dont add up. If you know that you opened that pkg and it blew on your hands, you dont have to tell us, let it go, then go home, face your wife and tell her that you are guity and ask for her forgiveness. She is the one that matters, not us on this board. Find a new job and find your integrity. :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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