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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 3205915" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>Whether your vehicle is plated as commercial by the BMV standards, and whether your vehicle classifies as a commercial vehicle for DOT purposes, placing you under the rules of the DOT, are two different things.</p><p></p><p>You are correct. Your truck needs commercial plates according to the BMV but does not fall under the laws of the DOT governing commercial vehicles since it is less than 10,000 GVWR.</p><p></p><p>The definition of a commercial motor vehicle in 49 CFR <span style="font-size: 15px">Section § 390.5 relates to needing a DOT number and Medical Card and placing you under the laws and rules of the FMCSA.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Vehicles registered to a company need commercial plates also, but do not necessarily need a DOT number or a Medical Card to drive, unless the FMCSA Commercial Motor Vehicle definition is met.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">The UPS vans under 10,000 technically do not need a Medical Card or DOT number, plated as commercial because they are classified as trucks under the BMV, but less than 10,000 lbs, although all UPS vehicles have the same DOT number, and you, as a UPS employee, are not going to be limited to just driving less than an 8 cube, so all drivers need a medical card.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">So you are correct, even the vehicles under 10,000 lbs need commercial plates since they are registered to a company and also classified as trucks.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">As for your pick up, it is classified as a truck, as you even mentioned. Vans, buses and box trucks are also classified by the BMV as trucks, needing commercial plates. There are 8 classes of commercial trucks, based on weight, all needing commercial plates, but not necessarily classifying you as a commercial motor vehicle for DOT purposes, needing a DOT Number or Medical Card.</span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 15px"><br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 1- GVWR ranges from 0 to 6,000 pounds (0 to 2,722 kg)</li> </ul><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 2- GVWR ranges from 6,001 to 10,000 pounds (2,722 to 4,536 kg)</li> </ul><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 3- GVWR ranges from 10,001 to 14,000 pounds (4,536 to 6,350 kg)</li> </ul><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 4- GVWR ranges from 14,001 to 16,000 pounds (6,351 to 7,257 kg)</li> </ul><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 5- GVWR ranges from 16,001 to 19,500 pounds (7,258 to 8,845 kg).</li> </ul><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 6- GVWR ranges from 19,501 to 26,000 pounds (8,846 to 11,793 kg)</li> </ul><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 7- GVWR ranges from 26,001 to 33,000 pounds (11,794 to 14,969 kg)</li> </ul><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class 8- GVWR is anything above 33,000 pounds (14,969 kg)</li> </ul></span></li> </ul><p>This is why UPS ads for PVD's state their vehicle must be under 10,001 lbs. They can still have a pick up plated as commercial and not fall under the DOT regulations. Class 1 or 2. If they are Class 3 or above, they would need a Medical Card and a DOT number.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying there must be a 2 square foot area open, in an enclosed space about the size of a 2 person tent, for proper ventilation to run the heater continuously. But these heaters do have an oxygen depletion sensor that will shut the heaters off if the oxygen level drops too much.</p><p></p><p>Look, they are going to use golf carts anyway. Give them some heat. With proper ventilation combined with an oxygen depletion sensor, that's the best we got.</p><p></p><p>Yes, we can push for the electric heaters. Go ahead and grieve it. See where it goes.</p><p></p><p>I won't hold my breath.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 3205915, member: 8481"] Whether your vehicle is plated as commercial by the BMV standards, and whether your vehicle classifies as a commercial vehicle for DOT purposes, placing you under the rules of the DOT, are two different things. You are correct. Your truck needs commercial plates according to the BMV but does not fall under the laws of the DOT governing commercial vehicles since it is less than 10,000 GVWR. The definition of a commercial motor vehicle in 49 CFR [SIZE=4]Section § 390.5 relates to needing a DOT number and Medical Card and placing you under the laws and rules of the FMCSA. Vehicles registered to a company need commercial plates also, but do not necessarily need a DOT number or a Medical Card to drive, unless the FMCSA Commercial Motor Vehicle definition is met. The UPS vans under 10,000 technically do not need a Medical Card or DOT number, plated as commercial because they are classified as trucks under the BMV, but less than 10,000 lbs, although all UPS vehicles have the same DOT number, and you, as a UPS employee, are not going to be limited to just driving less than an 8 cube, so all drivers need a medical card. So you are correct, even the vehicles under 10,000 lbs need commercial plates since they are registered to a company and also classified as trucks. As for your pick up, it is classified as a truck, as you even mentioned. Vans, buses and box trucks are also classified by the BMV as trucks, needing commercial plates. There are 8 classes of commercial trucks, based on weight, all needing commercial plates, but not necessarily classifying you as a commercial motor vehicle for DOT purposes, needing a DOT Number or Medical Card.[/SIZE] [LIST] [*][SIZE=4] [LIST] [*]Class 1- GVWR ranges from 0 to 6,000 pounds (0 to 2,722 kg) [/LIST] [LIST] [*]Class 2- GVWR ranges from 6,001 to 10,000 pounds (2,722 to 4,536 kg) [/LIST] [LIST] [*]Class 3- GVWR ranges from 10,001 to 14,000 pounds (4,536 to 6,350 kg) [/LIST] [LIST] [*]Class 4- GVWR ranges from 14,001 to 16,000 pounds (6,351 to 7,257 kg) [/LIST] [LIST] [*]Class 5- GVWR ranges from 16,001 to 19,500 pounds (7,258 to 8,845 kg). [/LIST] [LIST] [*]Class 6- GVWR ranges from 19,501 to 26,000 pounds (8,846 to 11,793 kg) [/LIST] [LIST] [*]Class 7- GVWR ranges from 26,001 to 33,000 pounds (11,794 to 14,969 kg) [/LIST] [LIST] [*]Class 8- GVWR is anything above 33,000 pounds (14,969 kg) [/LIST][/SIZE] [/LIST] This is why UPS ads for PVD's state their vehicle must be under 10,001 lbs. They can still have a pick up plated as commercial and not fall under the DOT regulations. Class 1 or 2. If they are Class 3 or above, they would need a Medical Card and a DOT number. No. I'm saying there must be a 2 square foot area open, in an enclosed space about the size of a 2 person tent, for proper ventilation to run the heater continuously. But these heaters do have an oxygen depletion sensor that will shut the heaters off if the oxygen level drops too much. Look, they are going to use golf carts anyway. Give them some heat. With proper ventilation combined with an oxygen depletion sensor, that's the best we got. Yes, we can push for the electric heaters. Go ahead and grieve it. See where it goes. I won't hold my breath. [/QUOTE]
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