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[rickyb]

2 hours a week would make sense as long as the workers voted for it?

the point is - they voted for it democratically. democracy is not a perfect idea, but its hte best one we got and a "threat to any power system" like capitalism.

now in mondragon an anti capitalist spanish cooperative, when they need to do lay offs, one thing they do is cut all the workers hours instead of cutting 1 workers hours entirely.

 

[Box Ox]

the point is - they voted for it democratically. democracy is not a perfect idea, but its hte best one we got and a "threat to any power system" like capitalism.

now in mondragon an anti capitalist spanish cooperative, when they need to do lay offs, one thing they do is cut all the workers hours instead of cutting 1 workers hours entirely.

How many hours a week do Mondragon employees work?

 

[rickyb]

How many hours a week do Mondragon employees work?

this article didnt mention it but it very quickly mentioned this

How Mondragon Became the World’s Largest Co-Op

In Spain, an industrial-sized conglomerate owned by its workers suggests an alternative future for capitalism.

www.newyorker.com

compare that to USA

 

[vantexan]

lets practice critical thinking:

we hate tyranny.

we go to work 40 hours a week where we follow orders and do what were told. we dont vote at work

what is this called?

A living.

 

[rickyb]

A living.

economic tyranny.

tyranny is not limited to politics.

 

[vantexan]

economic tyranny.

tyranny is not limited to politics.

Doing your assigned duties isn't tyranny.

 

[rickyb]

Doing your assigned duties isn't tyranny.

actually following orders at work from a boss is.

cruel / oppressive rule is the definition

under similar it says injustice, unjustness, strictness, harshness, severity, undemocratic rule, cruelty

next to opposite it says democracy

 

[vantexan]

actually following orders at work from a boss is.

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cruel / oppressive rule is the definition

under similar it says injustice, unjustness, strictness, harshness, severity, undemocratic rule, cruelty

next to opposite it says democracy

And absolutely nothing in that definition about following directions at work.

 

[rickyb]

And absolutely nothing in that definition about following directions at work.

is it possible to be ruled as a worker?

yes

so it fits the definition. the definition is not limited to govt.

 

[vantexan]

is it possible to be ruled as a worker?

yes

so it fits the definition. the definition is not limited to govt.

Being ruled isn't tyranny. Being ruled unfairly is tyranny.

 

[Babagounj]

2 hours a week would make sense as long as the workers voted for it?

How would you occupy the other 166 hours of your life ?

 

[rickyb]

Being ruled isn't tyranny. Being ruled unfairly is tyranny.

yes and workers are cruelly / oppressively ruled by their employers

 

[Jkloc420]

They live in holes

 

[rickyb]

They live in holes

poo holes

 

[vantexan]

yes and workers are cruelly / oppressively ruled by their employers

Clocking in/out, doing your assigned tasks is so cruel.

 

[rickyb]

Clocking in/out, doing your assigned tasks is so cruel.

yea for example UPS has no air conditioning, long hours makes it unsafe, loads are too heavy, etc.

railway was dangerous shift work with shifts that are too long, dangerous equipment design, trains are too long. chernobyl ohio is a prime example.

 

[vantexan]

yea for example UPS has no air conditioning, long hours makes it unsafe, loads are too heavy, etc.

railway was dangerous shift work with shifts that are too long, dangerous equipment design, trains are too long. chernobyl ohio is a prime example.

Then don't work there.

 

[rickyb]

Then don't work there.

thats no excuse for tyranny

if i dont live in a country, is it ok for it to have political tyranny? no

 

[vantexan]

thats no excuse for tyranny

if i dont live in a country, is it ok for it to have political tyranny? no

Don't worry, they won't miss you.

 

[rickyb]

Don't worry, they won't miss you.

why are you defending tyranny; thats satanic!