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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4447255" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>I wasn't taking a stance one way or the other, just pointing out the difference between socialism and welfare states. A lot of people don't seem to know the difference, and that lack of understanding is exploitable by people pushing for socialism.</p><p></p><p>I haven't really formed much of an opinion on the matter, aside that full on socialism doesn't work. I am starting to lean towards the opinion that full-on free market capitalism might work just as well as socialism. The purist capitalists put a lot of faith in the free market, but the market is just people, and I don't trust people to act totally rationally, as is required for free markets to work properly. Just as I don't trust people to act completely egalitarian or altruistic, which is what socialism requires. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps a welfare state is a reasonable balance between the two. I can't think of any developed nation that doesn't have some welfare programs. I would like to see safeguards enacted to prevent welfare promises made by politicians to buy votes. It would also be good to prevent corporations from using welfare as an excuse to pay their employees poorly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4447255, member: 63706"] I wasn't taking a stance one way or the other, just pointing out the difference between socialism and welfare states. A lot of people don't seem to know the difference, and that lack of understanding is exploitable by people pushing for socialism. I haven't really formed much of an opinion on the matter, aside that full on socialism doesn't work. I am starting to lean towards the opinion that full-on free market capitalism might work just as well as socialism. The purist capitalists put a lot of faith in the free market, but the market is just people, and I don't trust people to act totally rationally, as is required for free markets to work properly. Just as I don't trust people to act completely egalitarian or altruistic, which is what socialism requires. Perhaps a welfare state is a reasonable balance between the two. I can't think of any developed nation that doesn't have some welfare programs. I would like to see safeguards enacted to prevent welfare promises made by politicians to buy votes. It would also be good to prevent corporations from using welfare as an excuse to pay their employees poorly. [/QUOTE]
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