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<blockquote data-quote="dmac1" data-source="post: 4877880" data-attributes="member: 60252"><p>California is where I live now. I think that maybe the California court case may have had something to do with ground/HD remaining separate. California is the only state where the case was actually ruled on by the courts instead of Fedex agreeing to a settlement out of court. Not sure if that is why, but perhaps requiring HD contractors to give up territory or forcing them to move 70 miles if HD was moved to the local ground terminal , or a new colo would be a severe violation of their proprietary rights. If fedex unilaterally made the decision to combine HD/ground, it would help lean even more towards employee status. </p><p></p><p>And only for the sake of maximizing profits would either Fedex or Amazon consider some kind of cooperating agreement. Both know that having multiple vehicles making long trips and covering the same area is leaving profit on the table. And being a decent sized city with over 100k population with another maybe 200k in the rest of the county and nearby towns, and being far from much larger cities where populations are in the 1 million+ range is probably not a common situation, and maybe the extra profit isn't worth the effort of setting it up if it is a real rare situation. Other places I've lived are either large cities with smaller towns scattered around, or midsized or small cities like mine much further from BIG cities. Being right in the middle of two large cities/urban areas and still close enough to reach but not big enough for a full terminal is not common, but still, with UPS having 10 or more trucks in the area, express having maybe 6 vehicles, and Amazon having at least 5-6 and ground having 8 and HD sending maybe almost as many from so far away is a waste of money, when maybe 15 truck could serve all of what UPS, Amazon, and Fedex use maybe 30 vehicles to serve. I see the inefficiency of it all, like having an express, ground, and HD vehicle all on the same block at the same time used to bother me when I was putting in 14 hour days and driving 400 miles with 40 stops in my truck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dmac1, post: 4877880, member: 60252"] California is where I live now. I think that maybe the California court case may have had something to do with ground/HD remaining separate. California is the only state where the case was actually ruled on by the courts instead of Fedex agreeing to a settlement out of court. Not sure if that is why, but perhaps requiring HD contractors to give up territory or forcing them to move 70 miles if HD was moved to the local ground terminal , or a new colo would be a severe violation of their proprietary rights. If fedex unilaterally made the decision to combine HD/ground, it would help lean even more towards employee status. And only for the sake of maximizing profits would either Fedex or Amazon consider some kind of cooperating agreement. Both know that having multiple vehicles making long trips and covering the same area is leaving profit on the table. And being a decent sized city with over 100k population with another maybe 200k in the rest of the county and nearby towns, and being far from much larger cities where populations are in the 1 million+ range is probably not a common situation, and maybe the extra profit isn't worth the effort of setting it up if it is a real rare situation. Other places I've lived are either large cities with smaller towns scattered around, or midsized or small cities like mine much further from BIG cities. Being right in the middle of two large cities/urban areas and still close enough to reach but not big enough for a full terminal is not common, but still, with UPS having 10 or more trucks in the area, express having maybe 6 vehicles, and Amazon having at least 5-6 and ground having 8 and HD sending maybe almost as many from so far away is a waste of money, when maybe 15 truck could serve all of what UPS, Amazon, and Fedex use maybe 30 vehicles to serve. I see the inefficiency of it all, like having an express, ground, and HD vehicle all on the same block at the same time used to bother me when I was putting in 14 hour days and driving 400 miles with 40 stops in my truck. [/QUOTE]
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