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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1067673" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>Speaking <em>philosophically...</em>I wouldnt mind seeing some sort of mandatory firearms safety training and criminal background check as a prerequisite for legal ownership. In return for this requirement, I would want to see a uniform set of laws (including the right to concealed carry) that applied equally in all 50 states. </p><p></p><p>The <em>problem</em> with such a requirement....is that most of the politicians who talk about mandatory "licensing" and "training" are (a) totally ignorant of guns and (b) actually have as their ultimate goal the virtual abolition of private firearm ownership and the right to armed self defense.</p><p></p><p>Imagine going to the DMV to get a drivers license, only to discover that the tests were designed to make it virtually impossible to ever obtain that license. Imagine if the employees of the DMV were all adamantly opposed to the idea of driving cars. Imagine if the fees associated with such a license were unaffordable, and imagine if the rules for keeping one's license were subject to change at the whims of the unelected bureacrats who were in charge. THAT is the reason why most gun owners (myself included) are opposed to mandatory licensing and training as a <em>practical</em> matter.</p><p></p><p>If there is ever to be mandatory licensing or training as a prerequisite for gun ownership...it would need to have as a backdrop the fact that gun ownership and armed self-defense is still a <em>fundamental constitutional right </em>and not a "privelege" to be granted or denied at the governments whim. And I would want the entity in charge of such licensing and testing to be both accountable to the people and knowledgable about guns and gun safety. Perhaps placing the NRA in charge of such an organization would be the place to start. While most people view the NRA as a lobbying organization, the fact of the matter is that it was founded as an <em>educational and training </em>organization dedicated to the safe and competent use of firearms.</p><p></p><p>With all that being said, the sad fact is that there really arent any laws I can think of that will prevent a determined mass murderer from committing a massacre...especially when that murderer is given a monopoly of force over his victims in a so-called "gun free zone".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1067673, member: 14668"] Speaking [I]philosophically...[/I]I wouldnt mind seeing some sort of mandatory firearms safety training and criminal background check as a prerequisite for legal ownership. In return for this requirement, I would want to see a uniform set of laws (including the right to concealed carry) that applied equally in all 50 states. The [I]problem[/I] with such a requirement....is that most of the politicians who talk about mandatory "licensing" and "training" are (a) totally ignorant of guns and (b) actually have as their ultimate goal the virtual abolition of private firearm ownership and the right to armed self defense. Imagine going to the DMV to get a drivers license, only to discover that the tests were designed to make it virtually impossible to ever obtain that license. Imagine if the employees of the DMV were all adamantly opposed to the idea of driving cars. Imagine if the fees associated with such a license were unaffordable, and imagine if the rules for keeping one's license were subject to change at the whims of the unelected bureacrats who were in charge. THAT is the reason why most gun owners (myself included) are opposed to mandatory licensing and training as a [I]practical[/I] matter. If there is ever to be mandatory licensing or training as a prerequisite for gun ownership...it would need to have as a backdrop the fact that gun ownership and armed self-defense is still a [I]fundamental constitutional right [/I]and not a "privelege" to be granted or denied at the governments whim. And I would want the entity in charge of such licensing and testing to be both accountable to the people and knowledgable about guns and gun safety. Perhaps placing the NRA in charge of such an organization would be the place to start. While most people view the NRA as a lobbying organization, the fact of the matter is that it was founded as an [I]educational and training [/I]organization dedicated to the safe and competent use of firearms. With all that being said, the sad fact is that there really arent any laws I can think of that will prevent a determined mass murderer from committing a massacre...especially when that murderer is given a monopoly of force over his victims in a so-called "gun free zone". [/QUOTE]
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