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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1072606" data-attributes="member: 14668">The .223 cartridge is not legal to hunt deer with in Oregon, as well as in many other states, due to the fact that it fails to meet the minimum standards for deer hunting in terms of power or ballistic energy. By definition, it is not a &quot;high powered rifle.&quot; The people who simply want to &quot;ban high powered rifles&quot; as an emotional response to these tragedies would in fact be banning conventional, commonplace deer and elk hunting cartridges such as the 30/30 or 30-06 that have been around for over 100 years and are more powerful than the .223.Whats going on here is really simple. People are (understandably) reacting to these tragedies with emotion. They want to do something. They want to ban something. So they latch on to inaccurate, misleading, media-generated buzzwords such as &quot;high powered assault rifles&quot; as a matter of convenience, and make simple-minded calls to &quot;ban them&quot; when in fact (A) they dont know anything about guns (B) they are not capable of making rational distinctions between different types of weapons, and (C) they cannot comprehend the fact that the type of weapon used in the massacres had no bearing on the outcome of the massacres. A conventional hunting rifle and a couple of revolvers in Adam Lanzas posession would have resulted in the same outcome against a school full of children and unarmed teachers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1072606, member: 14668"] The .223 cartridge is [B]not[/B] legal to hunt deer with in Oregon, as well as in many other states, due to the fact that it [I]fails[/I] to meet the minimum standards for deer hunting in terms of power or ballistic energy. [I]By definition[/I], it is [B]not[/B] a "high powered rifle." The people who simply want to "ban high powered rifles" as an emotional response to these tragedies would in [I]fact[/I] be banning [I]conventional, commonplace deer and elk hunting cartridges [/I]such as the 30/30 or 30-06 that have been around for over 100 years and are [I]more[/I] powerful than the .223. Whats going on here is really simple. People are (understandably) reacting to these tragedies with [I]emotion[/I]. They want to do [I]something[/I]. They want to ban [I]something[/I]. So they latch on to inaccurate, misleading, media-generated buzzwords such as "high powered assault rifles" as a matter of convenience, and make simple-minded calls to "ban them" when in fact (A) they dont know anything about guns (B) they are not capable of making rational distinctions between different types of weapons, and (C) they cannot comprehend the fact that the [I]type[/I] of weapon used in the massacres had no bearing on the [I]outcome[/I] of the massacres. A conventional hunting rifle and a couple of revolvers in Adam Lanzas posession would have resulted in the [I]same[/I] outcome against a school full of children and [B]unarmed[/B] teachers. [/QUOTE]

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