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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1072709" data-attributes="member: 17969">There is a GINORMOUS difference between people getting killed with guns and people getting killed with cars.Cars are not designed to kill people.  Cars are not designed to get maximum efficiency when hitting people and causing death.  Cars are not designed to be interchanged with other parts to increase efficiency when hitting people.  And Cars are not designed to be used on a battlefield.The automobiles of today are built for safety and in fact, some include features that automatcally stop the car if its about to hit anything.  These designs are intended to save people, not kill them.However, any moving object if going fast enough can kill a person, but that isnt the same as a gun which is the "INTENTION" behind picking one up in the first place.There is nothing in the design of a gun that protects people, in fact, the designs by the makers own admission, are getting better "STOPPING POWER" and thats a phrase you have used yourself in many posts on guns.I cant recall a situation where a auto maker boasted about their vehicles ability to have greater stopping power against a living creature. I dont believe that an auto makers designers are sitting around a board room testing features that will kill people, unlike the gun makers whos only concern is just that.... KILLING PEOPLE.As for your suggestion that the shooter could have had a lever action hunting rifle and a couple of revolvers and the outcome being the same, well, thats just plain silly talk.  This 20 year old kid could have never killed as many people with a lever action rifle as that takes away from accuracy and the delays between shots makes it harder to aim.  This would require great skill and everything from reloading to speed loaders would have to be timed perfectly in order to duplicate the carnage.An assault type weapon NEEDS no skill to operate, and its just a matter of pulling the trigger over and over using military style rounds that go through one person and into another like slicing a hot knife through butter.Heck, I bet all of you gun guys on this board could hit the side of a barn with a Bushmaster .223, it isnt that tough.Cowards want the military style guns, just because it takes less skill to operate, and if they are uninpeded in shooting 50 rounds, they will eventually hit something.The tools make all the difference in the world.  The initial calculation of a mass shooting begins and ends with the weapons.  There is nothing in between but execution of the act.The latest shooter who killed the firemen in NY shot them with a Bushmaster .223 assault rifle and almost a half mile distance from a berm on the beach while they fought the fires.He didnt need to be close, as that weapon could have hit them from a mile away.But, thats how you see your country in the future, just one more mass shooting away from anarchy on the streets.peaceTOS</blockquote>

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