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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1074251" data-attributes="member: 2189">George Washington is also quoted as saying:Why not consider the words of Elbridge Gerry, spoken during the debate for the 2nd amendment:Those that argue for gun regulation/banning have some measure of grounds because the very militia spoken of in the Constitution which most of you speak of has been all but buried and mostly by your own hands.&nbsp; The irony is that the same bunch who parade themselves with the rights of the militia have also paraded the hero worship of the standing army, the vehicle of tyranny and empire, and thus abrogated your standing to claim in the debate.&nbsp;&nbsp; If standing armies are the bane of liberty, then militias are the bane of tyranny and you can&#039;t have it both ways.&nbsp; Stop the hero worship of state and flag as the first steps back to liberty.&nbsp; The very institution that claims as the defender of freedom is in fact being used to undermine that very thing.&nbsp; Stop believing the lies nor repeating them!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1074251, member: 2189"] George Washington is also quoted as saying: Why not consider the words of Elbridge Gerry, spoken during the debate for the 2nd amendment: Those that argue for gun regulation/banning have some measure of grounds because the very militia spoken of in the Constitution which most of you speak of has been all but buried and mostly by your own hands. The irony is that the same bunch who parade themselves with the rights of the militia have also paraded the hero worship of the standing army, the vehicle of tyranny and empire, and thus abrogated your standing to claim in the debate. If standing armies are the bane of liberty, then militias are the bane of tyranny and you can't have it both ways. Stop the hero worship of state and flag as the first steps back to liberty. The very institution that claims as the defender of freedom is in fact being used to undermine that very thing. Stop believing the lies nor repeating them! [/QUOTE]

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