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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1076318" data-attributes="member: 14668">It really would be more accurate to say &quot;gun banners completely unable to address the problem any way but the way they always have. Same tired, crappy echo chamber of idiocy.&quot;Trying to prevent massacres by coming up with ever more gun laws is like trying to cure obesity by banning forks. It doesnt work. Want proof? Look at the gun murder rates in Chicago or Washington DC or Los Angeles...all areas with draconian gun regulations...compared to places like Arizona or Vermont, which have far less restrictive laws and which also allow concealed carry without a permit.If we are serious about preventing massacres then the first thing we need to do is be rigorously honest about the complete and utter failure of so called &quot;gun free zones&quot; to keep our children safe. Bans, restrictions, registration, waiting periods and other forms of liberal, feel-good wishful thinking are not the answer and never will be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1076318, member: 14668"] It really would be more accurate to say "gun [U][I][B]banners[/B][/I][/U] completely unable to address the problem any way but the way they always have. Same tired, crappy echo chamber of idiocy." Trying to prevent massacres by coming up with ever more gun laws is like trying to cure obesity by banning forks. It doesnt work. Want proof? Look at the gun murder rates in Chicago or Washington DC or Los Angeles...all areas with draconian gun regulations...compared to places like Arizona or Vermont, which have far [I]less[/I] restrictive laws and which also allow concealed carry[I] without[/I] a permit. If we are [I]serious[/I] about preventing massacres then the[I] first[/I] thing we need to do is be rigorously honest about the complete and utter failure of so called "gun free zones" to keep our children safe. Bans, restrictions, registration, waiting periods and other forms of liberal, feel-good wishful thinking are [I]not[/I] the answer and never will be. [/QUOTE]

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