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<blockquote data-quote="toonertoo" data-source="post: 1082327" data-attributes="member: 1944">Maybe it is just me but I am having a hard time following the logic, and what it has to do with the right to keep and bear arms.&nbsp; Everyone, every socially unacceptable frame of mind you mention, happens to seem to me to be a mental disorder. But there are no ways to know that, unless the hippa laws are reduced to being available on a background check.&nbsp; As of now, I cannot get info on my husband when and if he is in the hospital unless he signs a paper saying they can talk to me.&nbsp; I do not have any answers, I just know that what they are proposing does not fix the problem of the mentally ill, mass muder, and the suicide, almost 100% after.&nbsp; Its kinda like comparing a bridge collapse, to one that was blown up by terrorists, and making the industry of bridge building, hamstrung with the materials to use.&nbsp; A bridge that carries 5 people per day, being the same as one that carries 5 thousand an hour.&nbsp; You can regulate the size, intensity, the amount of ammo, but there is no way any of this would have saved any of the people.&nbsp; The people who are insane enough to do any of these things is the problem. What I am saying is nothing regarding the sale of weaponry is going to change the fact that we have crazy people who want to kill people.&nbsp; Doctors can already and is part of their oath, to report people who they feel are a danger to themselves and others.&nbsp; Some do, I know for a fact.&nbsp; Then it is up to the person called to get that person taken out of the mainstream, and there is the problem.&nbsp; There are no services to deal with that.&nbsp; That is where the energy need to be put.&nbsp; Anti psychotic drugs used way too much on way too many.&nbsp; it needs to be used in a private, controlled setting and monitored closely.&nbsp; Everything that can be said has been said, yet the administration is reaching for a warm fuzzy conclusion, to this awful pattern.&nbsp; And it is one that makes zero sense, and fixes nothing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="toonertoo, post: 1082327, member: 1944"] Maybe it is just me but I am having a hard time following the logic, and what it has to do with the right to keep and bear arms. Everyone, every socially unacceptable frame of mind you mention, happens to seem to me to be a mental disorder. But there are no ways to know that, unless the hippa laws are reduced to being available on a background check. As of now, I cannot get info on my husband when and if he is in the hospital unless he signs a paper saying they can talk to me. I do not have any answers, I just know that what they are proposing does not fix the problem of the mentally ill, mass muder, and the suicide, almost 100% after. Its kinda like comparing a bridge collapse, to one that was blown up by terrorists, and making the industry of bridge building, hamstrung with the materials to use. A bridge that carries 5 people per day, being the same as one that carries 5 thousand an hour. You can regulate the size, intensity, the amount of ammo, but there is no way any of this would have saved any of the people. The people who are insane enough to do any of these things is the problem. What I am saying is nothing regarding the sale of weaponry is going to change the fact that we have crazy people who want to kill people. Doctors can already and is part of their oath, to report people who they feel are a danger to themselves and others. Some do, I know for a fact. Then it is up to the person called to get that person taken out of the mainstream, and there is the problem. There are no services to deal with that. That is where the energy need to be put. Anti psychotic drugs used way too much on way too many. it needs to be used in a private, controlled setting and monitored closely. Everything that can be said has been said, yet the administration is reaching for a warm fuzzy conclusion, to this awful pattern. And it is one that makes zero sense, and fixes nothing. [/QUOTE]

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