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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1082358" data-attributes="member: 2189">I predict regardless as to what the idiot in the WH does, you&#039;ll still be able to buy guns off grid.&nbsp; In fact, the market place will likely reward such market actors and the opportunity to purchase such will be even more widely available.&nbsp; Works the same with drugs, crack down of a certain drug where the product dries up.&nbsp; Prices respond upward in the typical supply/demand scenario and when the price meets a point that risk/reward becomes worth it, market actors will flood the market place to take advantage of prices before they fall as a result of over supply. The drug war as has alcohol prohibition failed for this reason and made even worse when the black market dealers became cartelized, they use the police to eradicate competitive market actors in order to keep prices up while allowing the police powers to appear to the public they are fighting crime.&nbsp; Police powers in effect become hired muscle to protect market turf. The public never realizing they, police powers, are helping to breed it for it&#039;s own self serving interests.&nbsp;&nbsp; And so too will guns do the very same thing.&nbsp; Off grid prices may also make stealing guns worthwhile too.Now the next question is, will someone be brave enough to open an underground eg black market machine shop that makes knock off guns with no serial numbers or traceability?&nbsp;&nbsp; There is always the unintended consequences of circumvention and tunneling under one must remember.BTW: That constitution was practically dead before the damn ink was even dry on it.&nbsp; And in celebration of, &quot;Treason: The Constitution of No Authority&quot;, happy 205th birthday to the great <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysander_Spooner" target="_blank">Lysander Spooner</a>.&nbsp; Spooner has been a hero of the radical right and radical left and I count him as hero for both reasons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1082358, member: 2189"] I predict regardless as to what the idiot in the WH does, you'll still be able to buy guns off grid. In fact, the market place will likely reward such market actors and the opportunity to purchase such will be even more widely available. Works the same with drugs, crack down of a certain drug where the product dries up. Prices respond upward in the typical supply/demand scenario and when the price meets a point that risk/reward becomes worth it, market actors will flood the market place to take advantage of prices before they fall as a result of over supply. The drug war as has alcohol prohibition failed for this reason and made even worse when the black market dealers became cartelized, they use the police to eradicate competitive market actors in order to keep prices up while allowing the police powers to appear to the public they are fighting crime. Police powers in effect become hired muscle to protect market turf. The public never realizing they, police powers, are helping to breed it for it's own self serving interests. And so too will guns do the very same thing. Off grid prices may also make stealing guns worthwhile too. Now the next question is, will someone be brave enough to open an underground eg black market machine shop that makes knock off guns with no serial numbers or traceability? There is always the unintended consequences of circumvention and tunneling under one must remember. BTW: That constitution was practically dead before the damn ink was even dry on it. And in celebration of, "Treason: The Constitution of No Authority", happy 205th birthday to the great [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysander_Spooner'][COLOR=#ff0000]Lysander Spooner[/COLOR][/URL]. Spooner has been a hero of the radical right and radical left and I count him as hero for both reasons. [/QUOTE]

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