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<blockquote data-quote="UPS Lifer" data-source="post: 1090088" data-attributes="member: 9789">Wkmac, A little touchy aren&#039;t we? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/w00t.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":w00t:" title="W00t&nbsp; &nbsp; :w00t:" data-shortname=":w00t:" /> We don&#039;t live in your perfect world of Libertarian views.&nbsp; I raised a point of discussion (actually bbsam did).&nbsp; I think we need to examine all ideas to improve the socio-economic value of our children and especially our less fortunate children, many who reside in the inner city.Of course - our government really is not good at anything except defense and you could argue that if we were able to do a good job within our education system, we would not have to look at any type of &quot;compulsory slavery&quot; as you call it .&nbsp; UPS had a program where they sent division managers into our inner cities to live and work for many weeks or months volunteering their time and expertise to help those less fortunate. I embrace a lot of your ideas, however, the difference between you and me is this; I don&#039;t let idealism get in the way of reality. Your last 3 sentences proves that you are extremely rigid in that idealism.&nbsp; I keep an open mind to any idea that might work to improve a problem or condition.&nbsp; If it does not work, drop it and move on to the next idea.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get me wrong, I can be rigid in my views as well. I do prefer that the education system be the first and foremost attempt to teach and engrain a vibrant value system in our children. The goal should be to make our children productive members of society who can provide for their well being without depending on the government. I am a big believer in diversity especially in thoughts and ideas.&nbsp; If all we had was uber left wing ideas or your ideas on my ideas, or ultra right wing ideas we would be a very weak society.&nbsp; If there are 50 people, I would like to see 50 different solutions to fix a problem and then mold that into a strong and effective solution.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UPS Lifer, post: 1090088, member: 9789"] Wkmac, A little touchy aren't we? :w00t: We don't live in your perfect world of Libertarian views. I raised a point of discussion (actually bbsam did). I think we need to examine all ideas to improve the socio-economic value of our children and especially our less fortunate children, many who reside in the inner city. Of course - our government really is not good at anything except defense and you could argue that if we were able to do a good job within our education system, we would not have to look at any type of "compulsory slavery" as you call it . UPS had a program where they sent division managers into our inner cities to live and work for many weeks or months volunteering their time and expertise to help those less fortunate. I embrace a lot of your ideas, however, the difference between you and me is this; I don't let idealism get in the way of reality. Your last 3 sentences proves that you are extremely rigid in that idealism. I keep an open mind to any idea that might work to improve a problem or condition. If it does not work, drop it and move on to the next idea. Don't get me wrong, I can be rigid in my views as well. I do prefer that the education system be the first and foremost attempt to teach and engrain a vibrant value system in our children. The goal should be to make our children productive members of society who can provide for their well being without depending on the government. I am a big believer in diversity especially in thoughts and ideas. If all we had was uber left wing ideas or your ideas on my ideas, or ultra right wing ideas we would be a very weak society. If there are 50 people, I would like to see 50 different solutions to fix a problem and then mold that into a strong and effective solution. [/QUOTE]

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