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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1095585" data-attributes="member: 14668">The guns that are demonstrated in the bra holster video are either .38 revolvers or compact 9mm semi autos. Hardly pea shooters. Care to take a round in the chest from either one? Didnt think so.Not every massacre involves &quot;assault rifles.&quot; The Columbine shooters were armed with 9mm carbines and shotguns. The VA Tech shooter was armed with a pair of handguns. None of them wore body armor and a center of mass hit with a service caliber handgun such as the 9mm or .38 in the hands of an armed teacher would have taken them out of the fight.One of the members of my gun club is a teacher, who carries concealed in the classroom every day. He has a permit and is therefore legal, however he is violating the terms of his employment and would get fired if discovered. His plan for dealing with an armed lunatic is to lock the door of the classroom and take cover behind his desk, covering the door with his airweight .38 special with a Crimson Trace laser sight. Bad guy kicks door in, teacher puts a .38+P Glaser round into bad guys head, bad guy dies. This teacher comes to the range on a regular basis and practices 7-yard head shots with his .38 and he is reeeallly good. Its not the size of the gun, its how you use it and what sort of plan you have in place to deal with a madman when the time comes. In any case, it sure as hell beats your plan for school safety, which pretty much consists of either (a) throwing books and pencils at the gunman or (b) getting down on your knees and groveling like a little bitch for your life and the lives of your students.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1095585, member: 14668"] The guns that are demonstrated in the bra holster video are either .38 revolvers or compact 9mm semi autos. Hardly pea shooters. Care to take a round in the chest from either one? Didnt think so. Not every massacre involves "assault rifles." The Columbine shooters were armed with 9mm carbines and shotguns. The VA Tech shooter was armed with a pair of handguns. None of them wore body armor and a center of mass hit with a service caliber handgun such as the 9mm or .38 in the hands of an armed teacher would have taken them out of the fight. One of the members of my gun club is a teacher, who carries concealed in the classroom every day. He has a permit and is therefore legal, however he is violating the terms of his employment and would get fired if discovered. [I]His[/I] plan for dealing with an armed lunatic is to lock the door of the classroom and take cover behind his desk, covering the door with his airweight .38 special with a Crimson Trace laser sight. Bad guy kicks door in, teacher puts a .38+P Glaser round into bad guys head, bad guy dies. This teacher comes to the range on a regular basis and practices 7-yard head shots with his .38 and he is [I]reeeallly[/I] good. Its not the size of the gun, its how you use it and what sort of plan you have in place to deal with a madman when the time comes. In any case, it sure as hell beats [I]your[/I] plan for school safety, which pretty much consists of either (a) throwing books and pencils at the gunman or (b) getting down on your knees and groveling like a little bitch for your life and the lives of your students. [/QUOTE]

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