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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1108975" data-attributes="member: 14668">So if he had no intention of obeying the protective order and no intention of obeying the laws against committing murder, discharging a firearm within city limits, breaking and entering etc...what makes you think he would have obeyed the law that required him to turn his guns in?Next question...the woman he killed was unarmed when he shot her. Even if the police had confiscated all of his guns and even if he had been unable to illegally obtain another one...what would have kept him from entering her home and stabbing her to death with a knife or beating her to death with a baseball bat?Third question...will the same politicians who advocate confiscating firearms from people who have protective orders filed against them also advocate allowing the potential victims of these people to carry concealed firearms for their own self defense? I find it odd that many of the politicians who claim to be &quot;advocates&quot; for abused women suddenly change their tune when those same women want to start arming themselves for self-protection.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1108975, member: 14668"] So if he had [I]no intention[/I] of obeying the protective order and [I]no intention[/I] of obeying the laws against committing murder, discharging a firearm within city limits, breaking and entering etc...what makes you think he [I]would[/I] have obeyed the law that required him to turn his guns in? Next question...the woman he killed was [I]unarmed[/I] when he shot her. Even if the police[I] had[/I] confiscated all of his guns and even if he [I]had[/I] been unable to illegally obtain another one...what would have kept him from entering her home and stabbing her to death with a knife or beating her to death with a baseball bat? Third question...will the same politicians who advocate confiscating firearms from people who have protective orders filed against them [I]also[/I] advocate allowing the potential [I]victims[/I] of these people to carry concealed firearms for their own self defense? I find it odd that many of the politicians who claim to be "advocates" for abused women suddenly change their tune when those same women want to start arming themselves for self-protection. [/QUOTE]

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