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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1112826" data-attributes="member: 14668">Every example I posted save for one had as its common denominator the fact that the victims were unarmed and helpless inside of a &quot;gun free zone.&quot;Would you support &quot;meaningful legislation&quot; that allowed teachers to be armed? How about &quot;shall issue&quot; concealed carry permits for all citizens, with full reciprocity between states?Or is the &quot;meaningful legislation&quot; you support simply the same tired old wish list of anti-gun laws, bans and restrictions that would have done nothing to prevent any of these tragedies?Its important to bear in mind that every one of these tragedies was premeditated. The shooters were deliberate, thorough, and spent weeks or even months planning them out. In most cases, the guns used were acquired weeks before the shootings. In two instances (Columbine and Aurora) the shooters took the time and effort to get on the Internet and learn to make improvised bombs and explosives. It is foolish and naive to think that, given their level of determination, such people would have been prevented from acquiring guns even if stricter laws had been in place at the time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1112826, member: 14668"] Every example I posted save for one had as its common denominator the fact that the victims were unarmed and helpless inside of a "gun free zone." Would you support "meaningful legislation" that allowed teachers to be armed? How about "shall issue" concealed carry permits for all citizens, with full reciprocity between states? Or is the "meaningful legislation" you support simply the same tired old wish list of anti-gun laws, bans and restrictions that would have done nothing to prevent any of these tragedies? Its important to bear in mind that every one of these tragedies was [B]premeditated. The shooters were deliberate, thorough, and spent weeks or even months planning them out. [/B]In most cases, the guns used were acquired [I]weeks[/I] before the shootings. In two instances (Columbine and Aurora) the shooters took the time and effort to get on the Internet and learn to make improvised bombs and explosives. It is foolish and naive to think that, given their level of determination, such people would have been prevented from acquiring guns even if stricter laws had been in place at the time. [/QUOTE]

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