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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 1191426" data-attributes="member: 4816"><p>rr,</p><p></p><p>Simple. As NYC has done by removing over 8.000 Illegally held guns from Gang thugs and criminal with stop and frisk.</p><p></p><p>The murder rate in NYC has dropped from over2,000 to the 400 range - saving many minority lives.</p><p></p><p>Gang colors ,loitering and drug deals provided loads of probable cause.</p><p></p><p>Research all you want -- statistics are what they are --Detroit,Chicago,Oakland etc,etc--do exist- no matter what you do to deny the problem.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/dissapointed.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":dissapointed:" title="Disappointed :dissapointed:" data-shortname=":dissapointed:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 1191426, member: 4816"] rr, Simple. As NYC has done by removing over 8.000 Illegally held guns from Gang thugs and criminal with stop and frisk. The murder rate in NYC has dropped from over2,000 to the 400 range - saving many minority lives. Gang colors ,loitering and drug deals provided loads of probable cause. Research all you want -- statistics are what they are --Detroit,Chicago,Oakland etc,etc--do exist- no matter what you do to deny the problem.:disappointed: [/QUOTE]
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