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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 2256554" data-attributes="member: 14668">History lesson: 50 years ago this August, Charles Whitman killed 16 people and wounded 49 from the tower at the University of Texas in Austin.His weapon? A bolt-action hunting rifle with a magazine capacity of 3 rounds. Yes, 3 rounds.The death toll would have been far higher, but for the fact that about 20 minutes into the massacre some of the students and other civilians nearby began shooting back at him with their hunting rifles. They failed to hit him but the return fire forced him to duck behind the wall and shoot thru the rain gutters which severely limited his visibility and field of fire. The Austin Police Dept did not have a SWAT team and the only weapons in their arsenal were revolvers and shotguns, which were useless for engaging a sniper. The return fire provided by the armed civilians gave police the ability to safely enter the building, from where they were able to make their way to the top floor and kill him at close range with shotguns. So yes, there actually HAS been a mass shooting incident where lives were saved by good guys with guns.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 2256554, member: 14668"] History lesson: 50 years ago this August, Charles Whitman killed 16 people and wounded 49 from the tower at the University of Texas in Austin. His weapon? A bolt-action hunting rifle with a magazine capacity of 3 rounds. Yes, 3 rounds. The death toll would have been far higher, but for the fact that about 20 minutes into the massacre some of the students and other civilians nearby began shooting back at him with their hunting rifles. They failed to hit him but the return fire forced him to duck behind the wall and shoot thru the rain gutters which severely limited his visibility and field of fire. The Austin Police Dept did not have a SWAT team and the only weapons in their arsenal were revolvers and shotguns, which were useless for engaging a sniper. The return fire provided by the armed civilians gave police the ability to safely enter the building, from where they were able to make their way to the top floor and kill him at close range with shotguns. So yes, there actually HAS been a mass shooting incident where lives were saved by good guys with guns. [/QUOTE]

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