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<blockquote data-quote="klein" data-source="post: 802482" data-attributes="member: 23950">Yup, Greece because they raised retirement age from 55 to 60. France same thing : from 60 to 63.And English students recently, because of higher tuition fees.&nbsp;The public has a voice there. Sounds pretty democratic to me.&nbsp;Lets see what happens in the US when these cuts take place (it&#039;s a matter of when, not if) !Will the American people be lame ducks and just swallow all the bad news, or will they demostrate ?&nbsp;Btw, you folks did pretty good yourself with the healthcare reform, and the tea party demos.When the average person living outside the US watches that on the news, they automatically think it&#039;s the whole country demostrating, but in reality it&#039;s mostly concentrated in the capital, and perhaps a few other cities.I see you have fallen to the same conclusion, and think the whole country is rioting !&nbsp;Your unsustainable socialist programs , medicare, medicaid, and SS - same thing isn&#039;t it ?Atleast the European governments are doing something to make them last and continue.&nbsp;The murder rate is Europe remains 100 times lower then in the US per capita !&nbsp;And when was the last time a EU Government has been overthrown ? And which country ? Because , I sure can&#039;t remember that far back !I wasn&#039;t born yet ! And if, I&#039;m wrong and mistaken, the better for the people - they have spoken, - can&#039;t get more democratic then that if they have the power to do so.But, I personally can&#039;t recall any Euro nation being under military power, until a new leader (government) was put in place.(besides ofcourse Yugoslavia (civil war), and perhaps an eastern block country that joined the west, after the fall of the wall).&nbsp;And Yogoslavia was really never a part of western Europe, they were an Allie to Russia, and under communist regime.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="klein, post: 802482, member: 23950"] Yup, Greece because they raised retirement age from 55 to 60. France same thing : from 60 to 63. And English students recently, because of higher tuition fees. The public has a voice there. Sounds pretty democratic to me. Lets see what happens in the US when these cuts take place (it's a matter of when, not if) ! Will the American people be lame ducks and just swallow all the bad news, or will they demostrate ? Btw, you folks did pretty good yourself with the healthcare reform, and the tea party demos. When the average person living outside the US watches that on the news, they automatically think it's the whole country demostrating, but in reality it's mostly concentrated in the capital, and perhaps a few other cities. I see you have fallen to the same conclusion, and think the whole country is rioting ! Your unsustainable socialist programs , medicare, medicaid, and SS - same thing isn't it ? Atleast the European governments are doing something to make them last and continue. The murder rate is Europe remains 100 times lower then in the US per capita ! And when was the last time a EU Government has been overthrown ? And which country ? Because , I sure can't remember that far back ! I wasn't born yet ! And if, I'm wrong and mistaken, the better for the people - they have spoken, - can't get more democratic then that if they have the power to do so. But, I personally can't recall any Euro nation being under military power, until a new leader (government) was put in place. (besides ofcourse Yugoslavia (civil war), and perhaps an eastern block country that joined the west, after the fall of the wall). And Yogoslavia was really never a part of western Europe, they were an Allie to Russia, and under communist regime. [/QUOTE]

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