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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 954681" data-attributes="member: 14668">Even if true, it does not change the fact that Zimmerman instigated the encounter by getting out of his vehicle and pursuing an individual who had not at that point committed any sort of crime.We also do not know if the witness saw the entire encounter from start to finish, or only what happened after Zimmerman and Martin began fighting. It is entirely plausible that Zimmerman approached Martin in a threatening manner or even tried to grab him, and Martin then acted in self defense. The fight starts, both men are punching and scuffling and shouting and rolling around on the ground, and Martin winds up &quot;on top&quot; at the moment that the witness first sees what is happening.What we do know....is that Zimmerman got out of his vehicle with a gun and inititated an encounter with someone who up until that point posed no imminent threat to him or anyone else. At that point, he lost the right to claim self defense. I am not a lawyer, but my guess is that he will be up on some sort of manslaughter or negligent homicide charges. I dont think he intended to commit a murder, but he was reckless and grossly negligent in regards to his decision making with his weapon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 954681, member: 14668"] Even if true, it does not change the fact that Zimmerman [I]instigated[/I] the encounter by getting out of his vehicle and pursuing an individual who had not at that point committed [I]any[/I] sort of crime. We also do not know if the witness saw the [I]entire[/I] encounter from start to finish, or only what happened [I]after[/I] Zimmerman and Martin began fighting. It is entirely plausible that Zimmerman approached Martin in a threatening manner or even tried to grab him, and [I]Martin[/I] then acted in self defense. The fight starts, both men are punching and scuffling and shouting and rolling around on the ground, and Martin winds up "on top" at the moment that the witness first sees what is happening. What we [I]do[/I] know....is that Zimmerman [I]got out of his vehicle with a gun [/I]and inititated an encounter with someone who up until that point posed [B]no imminent threat[/B] to him or anyone else. At[I] that[/I] point, he [I]lost[/I] the right to claim self defense. I am not a lawyer, but my guess is that he will be up on some sort of manslaughter or negligent homicide charges. I dont think he [I]intended[/I] to commit a murder, but he was [B]reckless[/B] and [B]grossly negligent[/B] in regards to his decision making with his weapon. [/QUOTE]

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