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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 954692" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Very True Sober. This could have all been avoided, if zimmerman had let the police do the policing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What is forgotten here is the victims rights (Trayvons). Does he lose his rights because he's black? Why do those supporting the shooter forget that Jayvon has the right to free travel, the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, the freedom to go anywhere he pleases no matter what happens at school. Where does anyone understand that TRAYVON listening to a strange man shouting at him probably feared for his own safety and when confronted by a man with a gun tried to defend HIMSELF?</p><p></p><p>But what chance did he have against a gun??</p><p></p><p>From moreluck to brett, both disregard TRAYVONs right to self defense. He was confronted for NO REASON. He had NOT committed any crimes, he was NOT suspected of breaking into any homes despite Zimmermans claims the "he was casing the neighborhood".</p><p></p><p>The only reason Zimmerman had for making this claim was purely race inspired. Of course we all know that BLACKS are always guilty, right Brett and Moreluck?</p><p></p><p>On the tape, Zimmerman mutters "friend-ing Coons, they always get away", clearly unhappy with being directed to stay away from the kid and thinking he would "GET AWAY".</p><p></p><p>This was an unintentional murder by a angry racist who should not have had a gun in the first place. All you have to do is listen to his first call to the police. He says sooooo many unproven things to the cops in order to get the cops attention. In other words, HE LIES to "blow up" the situation for his own personal needs.</p><p></p><p>He tells the cops that he sees a suspicious guy walking around wearing a grey hoodie, then he calmly says, "he looks like hes on drugs" " and up to no good", he then states "weve had a serious of robberies in the neighborhood"..he tells the police that he looks black and that "its raining and hes just walking about". He then states that Trayvon is just staring at houses and then claims Trayvon is staring at him.</p><p></p><p>He then tells the police that trayvon has his "hand in his wasteband" and something is wrong with him. He tells police that Trayvon "is walking towards him with his hand in his wasteband and has something in that hand".</p><p></p><p>He then tells police through "inflection" that he is afraid and hurry and send the police there. </p><p></p><p>CLEARLY, the police tells him NOT TO FOLLOW THE KID. The police were ALREADY on the WAY so there was NO NEED for Zimmerman to have chased him, not to mention chase him with a gun.</p><p></p><p>He clearly lies and fabricates the situation to make it worse than it was. He implies that the kid was near the clubhouse and suggesting that the kid may rob it.</p><p></p><p>WHAT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR about this audio tape is the INTENTION of Zimmerman.</p><p></p><p>During the call, he states "friend-cking coons, they always get away", but NOT THIS "COON". He was going to make sure of that. All the previous "coons" who robbed his neighborhood got away, but this one was going to make up for all the rest who escaped justice.</p><p></p><p>This "coon" was finally going to meet justice, Zimmermans way. Zimmerman believed at that moment that this kid had no rights or protections, he was merely a criminal and Zimmerman was going to provide the instant justice on the street.</p><p></p><p>He engages the kid after chasing him, a scuffle breaks out and zimmerman shoots the kid and kills him. Then, he claims it was in self defense, he had already layed down the foundation for the excuse. He told police the guy was starting at him, coming at him, hand his hand in his wasteband, had something in his hand, what more did the police need to believe this was a burglar?</p><p></p><p>Its disgusting those thay want to see this in any other fashion. BLACKS are people too. KIDS dont deserve to pay with their lives for things that they didnt do. I take offense to comments like Bretts and Morelucks who believe this kid had no rights.</p><p></p><p>Trayvon is a human being and a citizen of the United States.</p><p></p><p>Its a simple matter of humanity people. Hating a race of people and justifying horrible things that happen to them is beyond ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>Tos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 954692, member: 17969"] Very True Sober. This could have all been avoided, if zimmerman had let the police do the policing. What is forgotten here is the victims rights (Trayvons). Does he lose his rights because he's black? Why do those supporting the shooter forget that Jayvon has the right to free travel, the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, the freedom to go anywhere he pleases no matter what happens at school. Where does anyone understand that TRAYVON listening to a strange man shouting at him probably feared for his own safety and when confronted by a man with a gun tried to defend HIMSELF? But what chance did he have against a gun?? From moreluck to brett, both disregard TRAYVONs right to self defense. He was confronted for NO REASON. He had NOT committed any crimes, he was NOT suspected of breaking into any homes despite Zimmermans claims the "he was casing the neighborhood". The only reason Zimmerman had for making this claim was purely race inspired. Of course we all know that BLACKS are always guilty, right Brett and Moreluck? On the tape, Zimmerman mutters "friend-ing Coons, they always get away", clearly unhappy with being directed to stay away from the kid and thinking he would "GET AWAY". This was an unintentional murder by a angry racist who should not have had a gun in the first place. All you have to do is listen to his first call to the police. He says sooooo many unproven things to the cops in order to get the cops attention. In other words, HE LIES to "blow up" the situation for his own personal needs. He tells the cops that he sees a suspicious guy walking around wearing a grey hoodie, then he calmly says, "he looks like hes on drugs" " and up to no good", he then states "weve had a serious of robberies in the neighborhood"..he tells the police that he looks black and that "its raining and hes just walking about". He then states that Trayvon is just staring at houses and then claims Trayvon is staring at him. He then tells the police that trayvon has his "hand in his wasteband" and something is wrong with him. He tells police that Trayvon "is walking towards him with his hand in his wasteband and has something in that hand". He then tells police through "inflection" that he is afraid and hurry and send the police there. CLEARLY, the police tells him NOT TO FOLLOW THE KID. The police were ALREADY on the WAY so there was NO NEED for Zimmerman to have chased him, not to mention chase him with a gun. He clearly lies and fabricates the situation to make it worse than it was. He implies that the kid was near the clubhouse and suggesting that the kid may rob it. WHAT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR about this audio tape is the INTENTION of Zimmerman. During the call, he states "friend-cking coons, they always get away", but NOT THIS "COON". He was going to make sure of that. All the previous "coons" who robbed his neighborhood got away, but this one was going to make up for all the rest who escaped justice. This "coon" was finally going to meet justice, Zimmermans way. Zimmerman believed at that moment that this kid had no rights or protections, he was merely a criminal and Zimmerman was going to provide the instant justice on the street. He engages the kid after chasing him, a scuffle breaks out and zimmerman shoots the kid and kills him. Then, he claims it was in self defense, he had already layed down the foundation for the excuse. He told police the guy was starting at him, coming at him, hand his hand in his wasteband, had something in his hand, what more did the police need to believe this was a burglar? Its disgusting those thay want to see this in any other fashion. BLACKS are people too. KIDS dont deserve to pay with their lives for things that they didnt do. I take offense to comments like Bretts and Morelucks who believe this kid had no rights. Trayvon is a human being and a citizen of the United States. Its a simple matter of humanity people. Hating a race of people and justifying horrible things that happen to them is beyond ridiculous. Peace Tos [/QUOTE]
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