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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 955633" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Trayvon Martin was pronounced dead at 730pm by paramedics who tried to revive him. Zimmerman was handcuffed and placed into a police vehicle. The GUN, a Kal Tec 9mm semi auto was taken and placed into evidence. Zimmerman was considered a suspect at the time pending questioning.</p><p></p><p>Zimmerman was found to have been in a "violent" fist fight as he was bleeding from the face and back of the head. He told police that he was "yelling".... "help me , help me" but no one came to his assistance.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/86368480/Trayvon-Martin-Shooting-Initial-Report" target="_blank">Trayvon Martin Shooting Initial Report</a></p><p></p><p>I believe once the ballistic and trajectory reports are completed by the FBI. Zimmerman will be charged with Manslaughter.</p><p></p><p>In the partial report i posted, the police reported this incident as HOMOCIDE-negligent manslaughter- unlawful killing to prevent an unlawful act. Statute 782.11 of the police code.</p><p></p><p>Under the florida statute, Zimmerman CANNOT become the aggressor, initiate a fight, get that fight, get his butt kicked, then claim fear and shoot the kid. If Zimmerman has the right to self protection, so does Trayvon Martin. Martin is clearly the VICTIM of an aggressors action and the "stand your ground" law would apply to TRAYVON and NOT ZIMMERMAN.</p><p></p><p>Martin had a right to "stand his ground" and protect himself from Zimmerman. The real question that has to be answered is WHEN did Zimmerman brandish the weapon. He had a holster in his "WASTEBAND" that was visible and if Zimmerman approached Martin with the gun out, then ZIMMERMAN will be charged with a FELONY.</p><p></p><p>Then, after that FELONY, he could be charged with a NEGLIGENT HOMOCIDE for Martins death just for taking out the GUN. The GUN is the key to this case. The fight between them is not.</p><p></p><p>Zimmerman <span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>IGNORED 2 commands</strong></span> to stop chasing MARTIN. He ultimately corners Martin while brandishing a gun and MARTIN had every right to fight for his life. MARTIN had no way of knowing the intent of Zimmerman. We have NO WAY of knowing (short of a confession by Zimmerman) what Zimmerman was yelling at the kid. Was he threatening him? Was he threatening to use the gun if Martin didnt comply with him?</p><p></p><p>These are the questions only Zimmerman knows. </p><p></p><p>I have absolutely ZERO compassion for Zimmerman and hope the FBI concludes what is clearly obvious. </p><p></p><p>This self appointed vigilante used his own racist animous to intiate a scenario that he probably dreamt of for months. This was his "ideal" scenario. He got to take his gun, chase a suspect, take him down and if armed, he would ultimately shoot the suspect. This is something he had been waiting for all his life. He had the demeanor, he had the opportunity, he had his gun. He layed down the foundation with the "mis information" in his 9/11 call and all he needed was a black person to carry this out on.</p><p></p><p>He got his wish and killed an innocent kid holding a drink and a bag of skittles. Zimmerman has made 46 calls to police and all you have to do is read how many calls are on suspicious black males. This guy clearly has problems emotionally and is the LAST PERSON who should be allowed to own a GUN. He is overzealous and obsessed with solving ridiculous petty crimes. He used the same line a year ago with another black male "there have been alot of burglaries recently in our area" when reporting another suspicious black male. He didnt get his chance that time and Trayvon provided him the opportunity he was perfecting with his calls.</p><p></p><p>Fantasies and gun owners DONT MIX.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 955633, member: 17969"] Trayvon Martin was pronounced dead at 730pm by paramedics who tried to revive him. Zimmerman was handcuffed and placed into a police vehicle. The GUN, a Kal Tec 9mm semi auto was taken and placed into evidence. Zimmerman was considered a suspect at the time pending questioning. Zimmerman was found to have been in a "violent" fist fight as he was bleeding from the face and back of the head. He told police that he was "yelling".... "help me , help me" but no one came to his assistance. [URL='http://www.scribd.com/doc/86368480/Trayvon-Martin-Shooting-Initial-Report']Trayvon Martin Shooting Initial Report[/URL] I believe once the ballistic and trajectory reports are completed by the FBI. Zimmerman will be charged with Manslaughter. In the partial report i posted, the police reported this incident as HOMOCIDE-negligent manslaughter- unlawful killing to prevent an unlawful act. Statute 782.11 of the police code. Under the florida statute, Zimmerman CANNOT become the aggressor, initiate a fight, get that fight, get his butt kicked, then claim fear and shoot the kid. If Zimmerman has the right to self protection, so does Trayvon Martin. Martin is clearly the VICTIM of an aggressors action and the "stand your ground" law would apply to TRAYVON and NOT ZIMMERMAN. Martin had a right to "stand his ground" and protect himself from Zimmerman. The real question that has to be answered is WHEN did Zimmerman brandish the weapon. He had a holster in his "WASTEBAND" that was visible and if Zimmerman approached Martin with the gun out, then ZIMMERMAN will be charged with a FELONY. Then, after that FELONY, he could be charged with a NEGLIGENT HOMOCIDE for Martins death just for taking out the GUN. The GUN is the key to this case. The fight between them is not. Zimmerman [SIZE=4][B]IGNORED 2 commands[/B][/SIZE] to stop chasing MARTIN. He ultimately corners Martin while brandishing a gun and MARTIN had every right to fight for his life. MARTIN had no way of knowing the intent of Zimmerman. We have NO WAY of knowing (short of a confession by Zimmerman) what Zimmerman was yelling at the kid. Was he threatening him? Was he threatening to use the gun if Martin didnt comply with him? These are the questions only Zimmerman knows. I have absolutely ZERO compassion for Zimmerman and hope the FBI concludes what is clearly obvious. This self appointed vigilante used his own racist animous to intiate a scenario that he probably dreamt of for months. This was his "ideal" scenario. He got to take his gun, chase a suspect, take him down and if armed, he would ultimately shoot the suspect. This is something he had been waiting for all his life. He had the demeanor, he had the opportunity, he had his gun. He layed down the foundation with the "mis information" in his 9/11 call and all he needed was a black person to carry this out on. He got his wish and killed an innocent kid holding a drink and a bag of skittles. Zimmerman has made 46 calls to police and all you have to do is read how many calls are on suspicious black males. This guy clearly has problems emotionally and is the LAST PERSON who should be allowed to own a GUN. He is overzealous and obsessed with solving ridiculous petty crimes. He used the same line a year ago with another black male "there have been alot of burglaries recently in our area" when reporting another suspicious black male. He didnt get his chance that time and Trayvon provided him the opportunity he was perfecting with his calls. Fantasies and gun owners DONT MIX. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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